Sukhoi_fan

Be advised that this charging handle WILL NOT work on a Benelli 121!

Short barrel shotguns are best suited for those who have at least some degree of fire control discipline since the magazine only holds four(?) rounds.

You know what? WHO CARES. It's fast enough, in fact it's more than fast enough. Some people like to get caught in this "I've got the fastest shotgun made" nonsense. It's juvenile. Someone's been watching 'Commando' repeatedly with Aw-nold firing 300 rounds without a mag change. In a storm one can EASILY fully empty a magazine before one has a clue that one is close to doing so. Fun and games is one thing, however fun and games should NEVER be confused with serious training - imo you cannot do both and expect to get good results. Emptying 8 rounds onto a single target could not possibly be more pointless.

What practical use is it to empty the magazine as quickly as possible?? This 'technique' does NOT lend itself to fire control discipline* and does NOT have ANY practical application in a storm - in fact if one continued rapidfire until one's magazine is empty then one has left one's self in a VERY vulnerable position. *Not only does this 'technique' of 'fire until it's empty' rapidfire NOT contribute to one's fire control discipline, it makes for the bad habit of FIRING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE which as those who've been paying attention knows can lead to the hammer flowing the bolt home and ending up with the hammer down on a live round.

Those Tacstar mag tube extensions are absolutely worthless junk unless all you want is an additional round over the OEM tube - the Tacstar extension IS NOT A +2 EXTENSION! I cannot believe someone who (would have to) know(s) this would try to pawn it off on anyone else, ESPECIALLY on this forum. I consider it unscrupulous.

I urge you to do your own due diligence and not rely on some totally clueless party who quickly volunteers 'information' on a subject he/she knows absolutely nothing about and is unfamiliar with the statute itself. RE: the question in your OP - I wouldn't sweat replacing the stock on your Super Nova since it's a 'made in the USA part'. Additionally I'm relatively confident these 922® mandated parts counts only apply to semi-autos. Again, I'm making an 'educated guess' here, so DYODD - I suggest you read the statute for yourself.

Every forum needs a princess...who enjoys making movies of herself. lol

Additionally, the M4 was designed as simplistic as possible (to military specifications) so that jarheads could completely field strip it without anything other than their hands and the charging handle. Two completely different animals.

Why the need for the spacer on top of a ARMS #31 mount? I have the T-1 mounted on just the ARMS #31, no spacer. Somewhere I read that the ARMS #31 is lower than the LaRue, so that's what I went with. The only thing I dont' like about the #31 mount is that the throw lever is very difficult to pull with your bare finger(s). With the c-stock in the middle position check weld is right on, instant sight picture with 2 moa red dot centered. Of course YMMV.

How very mature! Oh the irony!!! lol** Back on topic to the OP - sorry, I can only afford one money pit (barely), so I'm unable to make comparisons. I would think if there was that much of a contrast the finish on Kip's Ti tube wouldn't match. **ETA: There were at least two VERY immature OT posts on this thread which were deleted apparently by admin - three guesses who posted them, last two don't count. lol

And one other thing about the 121 M1 should you decide to keep it - I recommend that you keep the recoil link pin (located at the rear of the bolt carrier) well lubed at all times. I had one break on the 121 M1 I got from Charlie - he'd shot a lot of slugs thru it and so did I, it took a real beating and we both neglected to lube that pin. Also, Uno posted some info recently in another thread regarding that button he attached to his M1014.

And what's up with this rapid fire until the mag is empty nonsense?? That shows a disturbing lack of fire control discipline. At best one would double tap the target, then assess the situation, ready to fire again if/when necessary. Anyone ever heard of fire and maneuver aka shoot and scoot? If you're unfamiliar with the concept I urge you to wrap your head around it - there's no substitute for it.

That's exactly what happens. BTDT And 870s don't like short stroking.

Oh snap! I'm thinking that's even more embarrassing than dislocating one's pinky with the charging handle (being that one's pre-mediated and the other isn't).

How did you attach that button Uno?

There were at least a couple of aftermarket add-on button extensions available for the bolt release for the 121 M1 up thru the early '90s (I seriously doubt you would find one NOS now unless you got really lucky and I'm certain no one currently produces any of these add on button extensions specifically for the 121 M1). With the *original* (aftermarket) 'Benelli button' one could simply flick this button extension forward toward the muzzle and it would release one round onto the carrier. You could then cycle the action to load one into the chamber. (I've been in a real life sh!t blizzard before with a shotgun, so I'm always critical of how quickly/reliably a device works when under stressfire) It was VERY quick and easy, worked EVERY time with only moderate pressure. The beauty of this feature on a 121 M1 is that only those familiar with the 121 M1 system could get it to fire the first round. In lieu of this button extension one can simply slip on one of those 5 round buttstock ammo holders made by Kolpin - it's really not that time consuming to grab a round out of the shell holder on the buttstock and drop it into the ejection port with one's weak hand. If you're wanting to keep that 121 M1 you might want to consider finding a gunsmith who's willing to add a button extension to it. Unobtainium recently posted how he adapted a button for another application entirely to his M4 rather than using one of the commercially available items. Looked like it would work reasonably well for a 121 M1 too.

Yes indeed! We want to see even more of your pointless videos aimlessly burning up ammo with rapid fire!

Hookster has it right about the weight vs. function issue, however I've got about the same in aftermarket add-ons and a c-stock on my M4 than I would have in two finely tuned and tricked out M2s (not adding weight, just improving function and capacity). In hindsight I would be better off with a couple of such M2s however the M2 doesn't have a rail and now I have a NV capable T-1 micro sight with a QD A.R.M.S. mount. A p p l es and oranges, YMMV. (lol, forum software censors the word a p p l e) Of course it strictly depends upon condition - I've seen a couple of 121 M1 shotguns in fair condition sell for under $500 in the recent past. However I sold my freshly re-parked 121 M1 about 1.5 years ago for $750 with a (fitted) plastic S90 M1 foreend and a plastic Choate field stock. I've seen super clean ones sell for more, but you gotta find someone who just can't live without a 121 M1 when one can find good used S90 M1s for $800 - $900 here and there. I only sold my 121 M1 because replacement parts are non-existent (unless you find a donor 121/SL80). I had my 121 M1 for 25 years, it was one of the first imports and was originally owned by Col. Beckwith (he got shortly after the failed Iran hostage raid). I hated to let it go because of its history, however I won't have a gun which I cannot get parts for.

Hossed mine down strictly by four hands, no threadlocker used and no loosening issues. (of course one should periodically check it when one fully breaks down one's M4 for a thorough cleaning, however I don't see how it's going to become loose without threadlocker)

LOL After King Ahab's (aka BJ Clintoon) speech just two nights ago fully embracing Communism you're gonna fall for the line of propaganda BS from Queen Jezebel's (aka Hitlery) State Dept. on the matter??? If you fall for that line of complete BS from the State Dept. then you're either extremely naive to the MO of the Communists (traced back at least over the last 95 years) or you ARE a Communist. There can be other other explanation.

Fat and gay is inconsequential, OTOH glaring incompetence isn't. Of course some people suffer from a disability which prevents them from seeing their disability (e.g. incompetence). Google 'something's wrong but you'll never know what it is'

The UN Gun Treaty is not dead, just revived in another form. And as Communist in Chief Barry Soetoro recently assured Sarah Brady, "I just want you to know we're working on gun control...we have to go through a few processes, but 'under the radar'." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn58fvk3N88&feature=player_embedded#!

Of course - why take a chance of damaging it?

Would you prefer that info based upon an inexcusable failure to exercise intelligence or sound judgment not ever be challenged...?

Exactly, there's nothing inherently difficult about removing the OEM mag tube. Just be safe, prudent, deliberate, and judicious with the appropriate application of heat and don't be a blind bull in a china closet. Not enough heat could be even worse than too much heat, as one could be tempted to apply an inordinate amount of force to get the mag tube to break out - DON'T DO IT. SD's got it right in his thread on the matter, once you get the threadlocker to release the mag tube should unscrew easily.