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Yeah. They can have whatever gun I've used to defend myself with. It'll be the lesser of my expenses. Lawyering up will cost you 10 grand minimum. Much, much more if it goes to trial. Consider that before you pull the trigger. You had surely be in fear for your life. The more anti gun of an area you reside, the more the law will be on the perps side. This is where it is better when only one person is conveying the series of events that lead to the shooting. Choose your tools accordingly to stop the threat. Erase the words kill from your vocabulary.

Furthermore, if it was an issue, Benelli would mention it in their manual. Doing this and cycling magazines on modern pistols and rifles is a waste of time.

There are many options. Some, we are waiting on for release. For a fixed pistol grip model M4, you need to replace 3 parts with US made production units. If using the factory collapsible stock, you need 4 parts. 1. Full length magazine tube. Kip's from carriercomp is the best value. You get a US made follower and a Wolff spring. 2. Magazine tube follower, see #1. 3. US made forearm. Freedom Fighter Tactical has a stock reproduction unit due for release. It's cheap and lightweight. Surefire has a rail system, the m80. I find the factory stock to be a better solution unless you plan on running a AFG on the bottom rail. 4. Urbino stock. Shorter LOP. 5. Carriercomp hammer, we're waiting on this items release. 6. Carriercomp disconnector, we're waiting on this items release.

Re-weigh it loaded. Probably close to 13 pounds with the shell carrier full. Put the light on too! You're in dire need of a Titanium tube. I've ran light and heavy setups on the M4. I decided to dump the heavy, and move spare ammunition off of the weapon as a result. California Competition Speed Loaders or even a bandoleer works OK. The bandoleer's are good for a grab and go setup. BTW, I'm still waiting for Mesa to send me that damn replacement hardware for the sling mount. 3 weeks now from HellA to Arizona.

It's always a good idea to tear a weapon down as much as possible a portion at a time. That way you become familiar with the weapon intimately. Many will be learning a lot more about the trigger pack as soon as Kip gets in gear. That's one area I haven't messed with too much. Recently I installed a DMW oversized safety button. It's a mod that doesn't cost a lot, but everyone should do it. It lets you disengage the safety with your trigger finger without moving the tip of your trigger finger away from the trigger. The little plunger spring is very easy to damage when driving the pin in and out. So take extra precautions.

It's not about carry weight. Reductions in weight help speed up how fast you can bring the weapon onto target. How fast you can swing, stop, engage and move to additional targets. The more front heavy you make the weapon, the slower you will be at engaging targets. Try moving in and out of small rooms with it. Generally, you're lowering the barrel to snug up against corners and snapping the barrel onto targets on the other side. If you stand in a square range and fire at paper targets in good lighting, weight reduction doesn't matter much.

Their rep was fed a line of crap. There is more room in there than possibly needed to make this work. Consider that the batteries are inside the flashlights body. All that would be in the handguards would be the switches. I'd be interested in one if they didn't make it overweight.

Tactical buckshot is usually a low recoil round. They usually offer less penetration, which can be good in certain instances where you have a dynamic environment where innocent lives may be beyond the target. Remember that they do not have to be in a straight shot from your position. Rounds will deflect, fragment and go all sorts of crazy ways. Regardless, you're responsible for them. The lower recoil can aid faster follow up shots as well. Those weren't my photos. The animals were from active or closed cases of animal abuse. You can look more up at: http://www.pet-abuse.com

Big plans?

That's the hang up for me as well. I won't add a step that requires tools for field stripping.

http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19360&page=3 Everything you need to know about replacing the Recoil Tube Assembly. The Numrich Arms link provided is the only source that I know of for the 3 position recoil tubes. The complete assembly is a 3 position tube, the stripped one is a 2 position unit. I personally verified this. The thread I listed has detailed instructions on how to do the conversion. If you need any additional information, let me know. Stev

I'd wait for the minimalist rail system from SideArmor. For simply mounting a light, the current versions are a little overkill. When the minimalist one is released, I'll sell mine off and get one to reduce weight and bulk. It should mount the light slightly further forward as well. The current setups work, but if it was an inch or two further forward, it would be ideal for my grip placement. Looks good, but it does look heavy.

Nice. Seems no one else shoots their Benelli. These pictures are a few years old. We were taking the photos to try to address some shooting stance issues. Such as chicken winging it and butt placement.

Seems Benelli removed the pics.

Just a tip, you'd make more money if you broke the accessories down and returned it to stock. Sell off the accessories individually. It can be a PITA to do, but I bet you could pull out a few hundred additional dollars. Set yourself up with a gunbroker account for free. I would not sell a weapon that isn't in 922 compliance. You seem to be one part shy of compliance, unless you just forgot to mention a US made magazine follower.

Surefire rail adds weight, offers poor rail placement aside from mounting tape switches and sling mounts. It's also much more expensive. The comfort of the factory grip is very desirable. Holding onto the M80 isn't very nice honestly. I've tried many rail options, and it just felt too fat. I would have guessed the FFT forend would have costed more. I'm sure they have 10 - 20k invested in the moldings at least. That's a lot of stocks to move before a profit is realized. I plan on picking up a set for the 3 M4's I have to count towards 922 compliance. I have a feeling the BATF may be getting more aggressive in the next few years.

Post 'em if you got 'em. The only rule is you or someone should be carrying or firing in the field or at the range. I'll post some when I get home.

7 years later, 13,000+ rounds down range, never left hammer down. Never a single issue. People who dry fire it have a tendency to blow holes in their floor. Your hammer spring isn't going to wear out from a static load. It wears out from compression cycles or over compressing, which should never happen. Mine are left hot and on safe. There is never a question about it's status.

Thanks. I added quite a bit to the UBR. It has ambidextrous sling mounts, the thicker rubber pad and an aftermarket strike plate. I like the larger rubber pad so I don't have to extend the stock as much. I also shifted the cheek riser to the rear to eliminate the gap. The ambidextrous sling mounts are awesome. You can make a 2 point sling a 1 point. You can switch sides when on long hikes and your shoulder is getting sore.

I'll post the birdshot hits at home later tonight. I am having trouble getting the urls on my phone. Needless to say, birdshot is only moderately effective when you have the muzzle pressed against the target. In most cases, its low mass won't penetrate deep enough to cause significant blood loss or severe damage to the central nervous system. Without that, you're hoping for pain compliance only.

Do not use birdshot. Even at close range, they typically only do flesh wounds. You're far better off with a weak 9mm. At the very least, use #4. I can post several pictures of animals who got spanked by birdshot. They're kind of gruesome though. They pretty much walked it off. Even at point blank, it's not a fight stopper.

The placement of the safety on the AR15 platform is far superior than the Benelli and other shotgun platforms. When running with a AR15, the weapon should be on safe until you've decided to engage a target. Raise the rifle to the target and disengage the safety and fire. The Benelli's safety requires you to use your trigger finger to disengage the safety. Then to re-engage the safety, it requires you to break your firing grip and press it with your thumb. The typical AR15 platform selector can be vastly improved upon though. The way to make the system intuitive is to use a 45 degree angle selector. A 45 degree selector allows you to manipulate the selector with your thumb without changing your firing grip. You ride the selector with your thumb on top of it like you do with a 1911. This gives you a positive tactile feel for the condition of the weapon. Here is the selector on mine: Here is a write up of the weapon in action against a feral animal from Wednesday: I used my MRP piston op AR15 with a so equipped rifle with an Aimpoint T1 in low light. As soon as he got lit up by the x300, I heard him say, "Feets, don't fails me now!" and it bolted horizontally from my position. In a full run, I tracked him with the red dot (no magnification) approximately 40 yards from my position. I was experiencing that great time slowing effect where every action seems significant and deliberate. The T1 acted as a large ghost ring keeping my focus on the target. Tunnel vision keeps your eyes fixed on the target and the scope body seems to vanish. Your peripheral vision appears to fade to black. The short throw felt like it took 2 second, in reality it was about .1 seconds. I recall thinking how great the KNS detent felt. I know that sounds like a gay advertisement line. The detent has a more positive engagement than others I've used. You feel and hear the detent engage. Since this was a new addon for me, the differences from my 90 degree BAD ASS which did not have the KNS detent was quite noticeable. I took my shot and put his dick in the dirt. I centered on him again to take a follow up shot, but he was out for the count. He got tagged above the shoulder at the spine with .223 62gn SS109 green tip. Game over. Without breaking my grip, I flipped the weapon back to safe with my thumb and re-slung the weapon. This isn't my first rodeo by far. Previously, I would feel the 90 degree throw movement, but it felt much longer and less secure. With the 45, I ride the selector until it stops with my thumb. I know it's location and have a tactile reference to the condition of the weapon. It reminds me of how the 1911 safety is manipulated.

No it won't.