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I haven't seen the magpul video, but I have seen a lot of pictures of the rail sys with the AFG. I recall wondering out loud a year or so ago about if the combo would get around the subpar grip of the m80. The rail is an aluminum extrusion with two rubberized sections screwed to the rail. The screws you see are to hold the rubberized parts in place. The rails do no detach from the body. It is all one piece. The rubberized portion seats snugly around the barrel. You have to spread the rubber when installing the rail to the barrel assembly. That's why I might have to trim part of the rubber. The barrel can get hot to the touch, but not to the point that it would melt or catch fire. The rubber feels to be vulcanized rubber. You end up with a good sealing surface around the sides of the barrel. One could claim it to be a partial heat shield.

Yeah, 5 days is long enough. Try these guys: thomjb KB Fab

Mine are still for sale, Sukhoi_fan said he'd take them asked for PP info then disappeared! Whoever PM's you first should get them then. Might run into problems if sukhoi's payment just shows up though. Maybe confirm via email?

Got the screws and washers today. Much appreciated. Haven't heard from the guy on ar15 about the screws. Anyone else have some for sale? I think 3 sets are needed.

Notice how much the mount pushes against the rubberized portion of the rail assembly. I might have to trim some of the rubber. Either way, it is going to be a low profile design.

Someone asked how the offset GearSector mount for the Scout fit on the M80. Here are a few photos. I couldn't put the mount where I intend to mount the unit due to the twisted rails.

Look what Optics Planet sent me. Take a look at the rails closely. Fail. The side rails on both sides are FUBAR. It's on its way back to Optics Planet. Not really sure who is to blame or where the damage occurred. It surely wasn't during shipment.

Carry 3 guns several miles and get back to us. Carry your supporting equipment and ammunition load out you plan to haul. A long arm and a side arm are common and easy to do. I do it weekly. Carrying 3 is a PITA and heavy. Last year on a back country hike, a friend injured his leg. So on top of carrying my gear, I had to sling his Benelli M4 and light pack. So I had my pack, his pack, my LMT MRP, his M4 and my other gear on my belt. That was a long hike back. The 12 gauge is difficult to justify due to the weight of the ammunition. I know everyone here is SOG and can hump their weight in gear across any terrain for days at a time without detection.

Looks like it came from Surefire that way, or I got someones return that they didn't inspect very well. The damage appears to have been done before it was anodized. It looks like it was crushed in a vice, and the ends of the side rails were beaten with a hammer. The shipping box is in perfect condition. Must of been a Monday build. I'll take a picture of it when I get home. Optics planet is paying for it's return shipping. But this will probably take 2 weeks to correct.

I'll snap some tonight maybe. My m80 showed up, but it's FUBAR. The rails are all bent badly at each end. So now I'm RMA'ing it. I did force the GearSector mount on as far as I could. The offset Is is perfect. The light hugs right over the top of the rubberized portion of the m80.

Wasn't there a video of someone driving over the same titanium tube that Kip uses with a truck without it deforming? I haven't seen the Freedom Fighter Tactical tubes, but I have three carriercomp titanium tubes. I can't imagine how the fit and finish would be any better. So why pay more? Furthermore, carriercomp gives you a US made follower. Right there, you'll be two parts down towards 922 compliance.

I'm working on a revised mounting system for the Benelli M4. The Sidearmor is nice, but it is heavy and bulky. A Surefire M80 is arriving later today. I'm going to add a Magpul AFG to it. Then attach the Surefire Scout to the rail with a GearSector offset mount. The issue is keeping the ergonomics functional. I've tried the M80 before in the past, and didn't care for it compared to the factory forearm. I intend to use LaRue index clips to cover the rail and to minimize bulk. The AFG may help. What will be nice is the entire light package will be attached to the M80. The bulky top rail won't be present. So, in theory, you could swap back to the factory handguards easily. I weighed the factory forearm before. Both halves weigh 5 ounces. A stripped M80 weighs 8 ounces. However, once you start adding rail covers, your weight will increase. The M80 will count towards 922 compliance too. For my top rail, I ordered a carriercomp replacement rail. I received it today. It is an extremely nice replacement part. If you plan on mounting anything to the top rail, I'd highly recommend it.

I think it's been nearly two years.

Got to watch out for those damn trijicon's giving off your position too. Sidearmor 4 Shell Carrier

Titanium magazine tube: http://shop.carriercomp.com/product.sc?productId=3&categoryId=4 If you're entertaining the idea of mounting anything to the top rail, do yourself a favor and go ahead about buy this rail when you order your mag tube. There is no better mounting surface than this for the M4, period. http://shop.carriercomp.com/product.sc?productId=6&categoryId=5

Great M4 deal: http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25600 Awesome collapsible stock deal: http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24976

One of the guys on here is selling his lightly used M4 for a good deal. 308 is in his user name. I think it was 1350? You can get the collapsible stocks from HK on here for like 265 shipped. The carriercomp titanium magazine tube is better than the factory benelli tube. It's 5.5 ounces lighter. Won't rust. Superior machining. Better finish. Higher quality spring. Complies with 922 parts requirements. It's about 189 if I recall. It comes with a US made follower too, so you're half way towards your 922 compliance goal when using a collapsible stock. M4's ain't cheap.

Kip helped me source the washers. How is a 100 of them for $6.50? A little better than 6 bucks for one from the bastards at Brownells! http://www.mcmaster.com/ Type in this reference number in the search, and it'll take you to the listing. 93501A009 We can't find the damn screws cataloged anywhere though. The cage works well, so long as they don't escape and tell on you. Your pimp hand must be strong.

This!

Will do. Come on guys. I know a bunch of you have these sitting in a bag somewhere. Make your wife mail it.

Do you have one of the Wolff springs that carriercomp offers?

Money sent. Anyone else need a set besides Thrombj? I'm still waiting to hear from my source at ar15.com for a set.

For shell carriers, I've had all the brands. Here is how I would rate them: SideArmor: Best design by far. Will never wear out. Only downside is the weight penalty. The carrier itself is quite heavy. Even my 4 round carrier weighed 4 or 5 ounces. 3GunGear: Super lightweight. Essentially the only thing you're adding is the weight of the shells. Very low profile, folds flush with the receiver when no shells are present. Kind of ugly though and will wear out eventualy. Tacstar: Junk. Good retention, but the mounting system to the M4 is Fail. Mesa Tactical: Not really a fan. The top rail is fail. It's heavy. The shells were a b*tch to get in and out of my unit. I've heard there was a revision since I had mine. The ergonomics of the carrier aren't as well refined as the SideArmor. I'm not comfortable mounting 6+ shells to the top rail holes without a forward support like the SideArmor has on their full rail system.

It's normal. Mine is actually beveled after 13,000 rounds. If you're concerned about cosmetics, get a bottle of alumablack.