Trapshooter1 Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Hey all you tacticool guys, a lot of you are putting hi capacity mags on your HD shotguns, how would you like to have a magazine that holds a box of shells? Here it is on the M2: and here is there website: http://www.xrailbyrci.com/ They say it doesn't add significant weight to your shotgun, but I would call a box of shells significant weight. Quote
agm65ccip Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Trapshooter slugs and buckshot come in boxes of 5, so I already have that capability Joking aside I have seen that before. As an engineer I'm fascinated with it, but I could not find the price or the actual patent info. And seeing as I haven't the foggiest idea as to when I might use such a thing I'm not in a hot hurry to have one. But it is pretty sweet... Quote
Creeper Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I've looked into that system a bit, a few months ago. It's not cheap... well in excess of $600. C Quote
StrangerDanger Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 23 rounds weighs about 40 - 46 ounces. On the end of a shotty? No thanks! Quote
Trapshooter1 Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 23 rounds plus 4 in the factory mag and 1 in the chamber makes 28 shells. I don't know why I said 25 I guess I should go back to first grade math Quote
Creeper Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I gotta tell ya, when I first saw this thread, I'd forgotten that I'd looked at the Xrail system... and the first thing that popped into my head was a straight, 25 round magazine tube. Really. Quote
Unobtanium Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Meh. Too heavy. Adding that to an already beefy M4 is rediculous. Cody 6.0's M2 would choke and die! Quote
tyson129 Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Hey all you tacticool guys, a lot of you are putting hi capacity mags on your HD shotguns, how would you like to have a magazine that holds a box of shells? Here it is on the M2: and here is there website: http://www.xrailbyrci.com/ They say it doesn't add significant weight to your shotgun, but I would call a box of shells significant weight. Def cool looking, but like the others said thats one heavy gun at the front. Wouldnt want to be waving that around anywhere. Quote
OhioM4 Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) I gotta tell ya, when I first saw this thread, I'd forgotten that I'd looked at the Xrail system... and the first thing that popped into my head was a straight, 25 round magazine tube. Really. What would that look like...an 18" barrel with an 80" extended tube magazine? How long would the tube have to be before you started shooting the end off it as the shot pattern expands? Wouldn't be much for close quarter combat. The magazine will enter the room wwwaaayyy before the muzzle. A snail drum like Saiga uses might be nice. Edited July 31, 2009 by OhioM4 Quote
BigHat Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 In the defense it would be pretty awesome, but I wouldn't want to carry a M4 with a fully loaded one. Quote
Creeper Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 What would that look like...an 18" barrel with an 80" extended tube magazine? Like I said... it popped into my head. One of those uncontrollable images that makes you laugh outloud. 80"? Naaaa... only maybe 75". Quote
OhioM4 Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) Like I said... it popped into my head. One of those uncontrollable images that makes you laugh outloud. 80"? Naaaa... only maybe 75". I'm going all out with 3" shells! A spring that long ain't going to compress into nothing. I'll just wait for a Dillon Aero Gatling Gun in 12ga with a 4400 round magazine. Edited July 31, 2009 by OhioM4 Quote
Trapshooter1 Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) What would that look like...an 18" barrel with an 80" extended tube magazine? How long would the tube have to be before you started shooting the end off it as the shot pattern expands? Wouldn't be much for close quarter combat. The magazine will enter the room wwwaaayyy before the muzzle. A snail drum like Saiga uses might be nice. I think the reason that most dont go past the barrel, is because in a combat situation, you want the barrel to be short, and if the magazine extends past it, it defeats the purpose. Some competition shotgun shooters have tubes that stick a good bit past the barrel, but much longer and you run the risk of denting and bending the thin walls. The final reason is cosmetic appearance, I like tubes like Tim Bradley has (or like the one's from Kip on a 18.5" barrel) that are even, or pretty close with the barrel. Edited July 31, 2009 by Trapshooter1 Quote
StrangerDanger Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Some use the magazine tube as a makeshift standoff device for door breaching. It's roughly 3 inches or so longer than the barrel. Quote
Trapshooter1 Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 They also make a compact 14 round version here is how to load it it is pretty cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdUYHYTSpGY Quote
Trapshooter1 Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 Take one of these and novaking's mini shells and you have 44 round capacity Quote
Creeper Posted August 1, 2009 Posted August 1, 2009 Take one of these and novaking's mini shells and you have 44 round capacity Would this be called the "Zombie Combo"? Quote
Trapshooter1 Posted August 1, 2009 Author Posted August 1, 2009 Would this be called the "Zombie Combo"? This would be called the movie combo because you almost never have to reload it. It would also make cool gun clicky noises every time you touch it. Quote
shotgunNoob Posted August 1, 2009 Posted August 1, 2009 Interesting for sure, but Im wondering how practical is it? Im thinking the weight alone, once fully loaded, may keep this item from being entirely useful/practical. Still, if I had money to blow through, I wouldnt mind owning such an item...at least for fun anyway. Quote
texas skeeter Posted August 1, 2009 Posted August 1, 2009 (edited) i sure hope a 5ft tall by-pod comes w/ the purchase of this gizmo!! cause w/ a sidearmor rail,b/t handguard, tac light and all the other sh-t on an m4, including ammo i wouldnt be able to stand and shoot:D. Edited August 1, 2009 by texas skeeter syst wouldnt let me spell b-pod correctly? Quote
OhioM4 Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 If you have that much ammo you may as well empty the magazine fast. http://www.firequest.com/catalog/gattriggermoreifno.html Quote
Trapshooter1 Posted August 3, 2009 Author Posted August 3, 2009 If you have that much ammo you may as well empty the magazine fast. http://www.firequest.com/catalog/gattriggermoreifno.html Man we got a beast of a shotgun project in the making Quote
cody6.0 Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Meh. Too heavy. Adding that to an already beefy M4 is rediculous. Cody 6.0's M2 would choke and die! If I seen that god awful creation mounted on my M2 I would choke and die. Quote
OhioM4 Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) If I seen that god awful creation mounted on my M2 I would choke and die. It does kind of look like the guy lost his ruler when measuring the screws don't it? I'm sure we could convince Kip to make a nice looking one out of titanium in a Cerakote finish. Edited August 3, 2009 by OhioM4 Quote
texas skeeter Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 It does kind of look like the guy lost his ruler when measuring the screws don't it? I'm sure we could convince Kip to make a nice looking one out of titanium in a Cerakote finish. KIP? no one seems to know where he is!! w/ all the threads about "where's kip?" maybe he was one of the IRAN hikers? Quote
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