StrangerDanger Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Fully assembled. Fasteners supplied by Noveske are a 3mm allen screw. I recommend using Locktite primer and blue 241 Locktite on the fasteners. Edited January 6, 2016 by StrangerDanger FU Photobucket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcharger Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 from what I understand that this limb saver fits the 11707 model????? just screw on or would you have to use a plate behind it? i believe limb saver has a plate that screws right behind your M4???? https://limbsaver.com/products/classic-precision-fit-recoil-pad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout_21 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 The 10403 fits perfectly. However you'll need 2 m4-0.7 x 14-16mm screws for the metal collapsible stock. Also, if you want it to fully collapse you'll need to cut out an appropriate hole in the plastic of the pad. It's not hard. I used a drill press and a dremel to cut it out and I'm happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_garten Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 The 10403 fits perfectly. However you'll need 2 m4-0.7 x 14-16mm screws for the metal collapsible stock. Also, if you want it to fully collapse you'll need to cut out an appropriate hole in the plastic of the pad. It's not hard. I used a drill press and a dremel to cut it out and I'm happy with it. Does it still need the Noveske adapter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout_21 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) Does it still need the Noveske adapter? Nope, it fits without any adapters for the PG and "traditional" stocks. It does need different screws and the hole for the collapsible stock though. If you are using a pinned c-stock then no hole would be needed. I did want to clarify on the screws. I used 14mm length and they fit fine...but you might be able to use a slightly longer screw. I haven't experimented to find the "best" length yet. Cheers Edited December 15, 2017 by Scout_21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 The Noveske adapter is only Ned ed for the collapsible stock. Just finished the Limbsaver install on mine........rather comfy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcharger Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 first time looking at installing this for the M4 and not sure about how to go about installing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_garten Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Nope, it fits without any adapters for the PG and "traditional" stocks. It does need different screws and the hole for the collapsible stock though. If you are using a pinned c-stock then no hole would be needed. I did want to clarify on the screws. I used 14mm length and they fit fine...but you might be able to use a slightly longer screw. I haven't experimented to find the "best" length yet. Cheers The Noveske adapter is only Ned ed for the collapsible stock. Just finished the Limbsaver install on mine........rather comfy. You guys look like you are saying different things RE the collapsible stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout_21 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I can confirm you DO NOT need it for the 10403 Limbsaver. If you have a different model you may need it You guys look like you are saying different things RE the collapsible stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout_21 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 There seems to be some confusion about this issue. I'll take pictures of my setup and post them later tonight (Alaska time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_garten Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 There seems to be some confusion about this issue. I'll take pictures of my setup and post them later tonight (Alaska time) Thanx a ton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout_21 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) To start off you specifically need this limbsaver model - 10403 It comes with the wood screws used for the field and pistol grip stocks. You will need two m4x0.7 - 14mm screws for the C-stock. NOTE 15 or 16mm MIGHT be better but I haven't tested those as they weren't in stock at my local hardware store. Edited December 16, 2017 by Scout_21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout_21 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Here's the cut out I made so I could fully collapse the stock. I only cut the hard plastic. Thankfully there is a void in the limbsaver rubber material so I didn't need to work on any of that. The silver discoloration is just from a sharpie I used to mark out the area to be removed. I basically marked out that area and tried to fully collapse the stock a few times to rub off some of the sharpie. That gave me a starting point for the drill press and dremel. No plates are needed for this specific limbsaver model. Other models do require the Noveske plate as the screw holes are aligned differently. Edited December 16, 2017 by Scout_21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_garten Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Nice work! Maybe make a separate post of this or get it referenced in Post one by the OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Nice work! So, in a nutshell.......no matter which Benelli M4 OEM stock that you have, it's the 10403 recoil pad that is the correct one. No additional adaptors are needed for any of them except that with the C-stock, you have to modify the 10403 pad and use different screws to attach it. Just reiterating this because there has been a lot of confusion in the past about which pad fits which stock and if you need a Noveske plate for it. One dealer's website that I have used before even states that the 10403 pad will not fit the pistol grip stock of the M4. Not in exactly the same wording but, you read it and say what you come away thinking. http://www.nokick.com/Precision_Fit_Pad_Benelli_M1_Tactical_p/ls-10403.htm Edited December 16, 2017 by Evolution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 My apologies,.......I got this infor incorrect. Sorry to have created some confusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_garten Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 My apologies,.......I got this infor incorrect. Sorry to have created some confusion I don't see it that way. Looks like we worked out an issue. No apologies needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout_21 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Yeah just to follow up the regular c-stock screws won't work because they are too short. I just ordered some 316 stainless torx pan head screws from boltdepot.com that are 16mm long. I'll report back on how well they fit. Yeah I know they are at high risk for galvanic corrosion. I also placed an order for these: http://www.fastener-express.com/m4-x-7-x-16mm-but-head-cap-screw-aluminum-qty-50.aspx Anyone else have thoughts on fastener materials and if the aluminum would be too weak for this purpose? Edited December 16, 2017 by Scout_21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I wouldn’t think an aluminum screw would hold up well, but it is just a buttpad. I would be more inclined to use a steel fastener with zinc based anti seize compound if I were extremely worried about the dissimilar metals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I don't see it that way. Looks like we worked out an issue. No apologies needed. Thanks Les’ When I read over it afterwards, I thought I threw a curve ball into the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Great thread update. I’ve made about 25-30 or the pads with the adapter and the 10111 for the collapsible stock. Be very careful when selecting your fastener length. If it is too long, it will bottom out in the blind hole. If you tell any resistance, stop. These fine screws will break off easily. I would not use aluminum screws at this size. The steel or stainless are fine. Use Loctite blue 243 to deal with the dissimilar material adhesion. M2’s pad looks like it’s solid rubber inside? On the 10111 it is a hollow void once past the plastic back plate. Edited December 16, 2017 by StrangerDanger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intervention Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Thanks everyone for clearing this on going question! FYI Amazon carries all the needed parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_garten Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Thanks Les’ When I read over it afterwards, I thought I threw a curve ball into the mix You stated what I believed to be the case, so we got a nice clarification on this that everybody will benefit from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 You know, I have to wonder.....there is definitely a hollow space where you have drilled that hole in the backing plate to accommodate the tube, I just pushed on mine with my thumb and it's hollow. Is it possible that the receiver extension is going to jam into your shoulder under recoil and eventually bite through the rubber on the pad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout_21 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Only if you shoot it fully collapsed against your shoulder. You know, I have to wonder.....there is definitely a hollow space where you have drilled that hole in the backing plate to accommodate the tube, I just pushed on mine with my thumb and it's hollow. Is it possible that the receiver extension is going to jam into your shoulder under recoil and eventually bite through the rubber on the pad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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