uptou2 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Hello, I am looking for a standard Benelli M4 stock. (https://www.eurooptic.com/Benelli-M4-Standard-Synthetic-Stock-81041.aspx) Let me know if you have one for sale. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineInchNails Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Bummer. I would have given you mine for free, but I somewhat recently traded mine for a Benelli stock with pistol grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyblaze Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I too need a Benelli M4 Standard Stock (no pistol grip) from a Benelli #11795. I have a new Benelli M4 #11794 with pistol grip. I can purchase a Standard Stock (no pistol grip) from someone or trade the pistol grip stock for an non pistol grip M4 stock. Gary 949-205-5353 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepbill Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Skyblaze said: I too need a Benelli M4 Standard Stock (no pistol grip) from a Benelli #11795. I have a new Benelli M4 #11794 with pistol grip. I can purchase a Standard Stock (no pistol grip) from someone or trade the pistol grip stock for an non pistol grip M4 stock. Gary 949-205-5353 Just curious as to why you want to go to a non pistol grip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric7 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Standard stock means no 922r costs for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 37 minutes ago, electric7 said: Standard stock means no 922r costs for me. How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric7 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) Correct me if I am wrong, but replacing the pistol grip stock with a standard rifle stock would eliminate the last non sporting feature, assuming the OP doesn't have a flash hider of course. Edited September 30, 2020 by electric7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) The driver for 922R is the 7 round magazine tube on the M4. When that is installed, if US made, you must replace an additional 2-3 Italian made parts with US made parts. 2 more parts if your gun has the field stock or solid pistol grip stock, 3 more if you install the OEM the collapsable PG stock even if you don't increase mag capacity. IOW, replacing the Italian made pistol grip stock with the OEM Italian made field stock has done nothing as far as compliance goes. It is still a foreign made part. Pistol grip stock or not, it has no bearing on compliance with 922R, unless it is a US made stock. Edited September 30, 2020 by Evolution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdog19 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Evolution said: Pistol grip stock or not, it has no bearing on compliance with 922R, unless it is a US made stock. This is my understanding as well. If you have a fixed stock (either pistol grip or field stock) you need to replace 3 parts if modifying the gun to maintain 922r compliance. If you have an OEM collapsible stock, or change the stock to OEM collapsible, you will need to change 4 parts to maintain compliance. Hmmm, I think I just repeated what Evolution just said... FFT has a few videos on the issue here: https://freedomfightertactical.com/pages/fft-videos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric7 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Features which are not recognized as sporting include, but are not limited to, folding or telescoping stocks, pistol grips that protrude conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, a bayonet or bayonet mount, a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor, a grenade launcher and night sights. ---- Mag tube is not in the above sentence. Is the M4 specifically an exception to this criteria? It's not an imported surplus arm and not a machine gun. Are you sort of saying that we should be cautious because the ATF has the power to decide whatever they want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigofirearms Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 The more I think about 922R, the more migraines I get?. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric7 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) Hey, I only press the issue to understand and hear everyone's view. Sorry Skybaze, and thanks to those that respond. Hopefully keeping this at the top results in someone offering up a rifle stock to Skyblaze. Edited September 30, 2020 by electric7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric7 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 I yield to Evolution and Birdog19 on 922r wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTom Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 As I understand it the 922R compliance only becomes an issue if you are going from a 5 round magazine to an 7 round magazine or if you have the collapsible stock. If the M4 is stock with a pistol grip stock and a 5 round magazine then no need to worry about 922R. It only becomes an issue if your M4 has either/or both mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) I think that this is the most concise explanation (that I have seen) of what is required to stay in compliance for the M4 and other Benellis. Are you in California by chance? I only ask because some of the wording that you used in your post is strikingly similar to the wording that is used in parts of the California AW laws as regards SA CF rifles.. 922R is a whole other ball of wax not to be confused with any Ca. AW laws. Below is a list of the import parts restricted by 922r as it applies to the Benelli M1/M2/M4 shotguns once you increase magazine capacity past the "sporting use" limit of 5 rounds. You are allowed a maximum of (10) of these parts to remain in compliance with 922r import restrictions. The factory M2 has only (12) of these parts, the factory M4 with fixed pistol grip stock has (13), and the factory M4 with the collapsible/separate butt stock & pistol grip has (14). BATFE has made it clear that the collapsible-capable stock, even if fixed as on the factory Limited Edition 1 of 2500 Benelli M1014, constitutes (2) separate 922r parts: a butt stock AND a pistol grip. Conversely, the fixed M1/M2/M4 pistol grip stock constitutes only one of these parts just as the NON-pistol grip M1/M2/M4 butt stock does. When you get the number of imported parts on this list down to (10), you are in compliance with 922r. 1 Receiver 2 Barrel 3 Bolt 4 Bolt Carrier 5 Gas Piston 6 Trigger Housing 7 Trigger 8 Hammer 9 Disconnector 10 Butt stocks 11 Forearm 12 Magazine body 13 Followers 14 Pistol grip Edited October 1, 2020 by Evolution 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambihunter Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I have always thought the 922r law was thought up by one of the major aftermarket suppliers here in the USA. It has benefited them tremendously. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwingsfansfc Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 All I saw in this post was grenade launcher. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayban84 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 9/30/2020 at 4:59 PM, Evolution said: I think that this is the most concise explanation (that I have seen) of what is required to stay in compliance for the M4 and other Benellis. Are you in California by chance? I only ask because some of the wording that you used in your post is strikingly similar to the wording that is used in parts of the California AW laws as regards SA CF rifles.. 922R is a whole other ball of wax not to be confused with any Ca. AW laws. Below is a list of the import parts restricted by 922r as it applies to the Benelli M1/M2/M4 shotguns once you increase magazine capacity past the "sporting use" limit of 5 rounds. You are allowed a maximum of (10) of these parts to remain in compliance with 922r import restrictions. The factory M2 has only (12) of these parts, the factory M4 with fixed pistol grip stock has (13), and the factory M4 with the collapsible/separate butt stock & pistol grip has (14). BATFE has made it clear that the collapsible-capable stock, even if fixed as on the factory Limited Edition 1 of 2500 Benelli M1014, constitutes (2) separate 922r parts: a butt stock AND a pistol grip. Conversely, the fixed M1/M2/M4 pistol grip stock constitutes only one of these parts just as the NON-pistol grip M1/M2/M4 butt stock does. When you get the number of imported parts on this list down to (10), you are in compliance with 922r. 1 Receiver 2 Barrel 3 Bolt 4 Bolt Carrier 5 Gas Piston 6 Trigger Housing 7 Trigger 8 Hammer 9 Disconnector 10 Butt stocks 11 Forearm 12 Magazine body 13 Followers 14 Pistol grip So, if the M4 OEM stock/pistol grip combo is replaced with standard OEM stock, does that eliminate item 14 above and only 3 more parts need to be replaced with US made parts in order to limit to 10 imported parts? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben elLes Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Rayban84 said: So, if the M4 OEM stock/pistol grip combo is replaced with standard OEM stock, does that eliminate item 14 above and only 3 more parts need to be replaced with US made parts in order to limit to 10 imported parts? Thanks. Depends if you’re going to say you “replaced” that part… cuz that’s a modification, so no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayban84 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ben elLes said: Depends if you’re going to say you “replaced” that part… cuz that’s a modification, so no I see. So, if it was bought originally without a pistol grip, then you need to replace only any of the 3 imported parts, correct? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben elLes Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Rayban84 said: I see. So, if it was bought originally without a pistol grip, then you need to replace only any of the 3 imported parts, correct? Thanks. Yeah if you replace anything you're supposed to 922 it. edit: and yes that’s 3 parts for the fixed. Easiest/cheaper is tube follower and Forgrips… I suppose a trigger is the cheapest but if you want the tube then what I said is cheaper cuz your already paying for the tube. Edited July 23, 2022 by Ben elLes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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