bigd081285 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Hello everyone, New to the forums and to the M4 family Was wanting to get everyone's opinion on what upgrades are a must have for a M4 I already have a RMR w Scalarworks M4 mount but thats it I know a 7 round magazine tube is a must and adjustable stock(impossible to find) and I think im gonna replace the handguard Is there any other suggestions? Also if anyone has any of those or other accessories for sale let me know I'm definitely interested especially a magazine tube Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTycoon Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I would suggest getting a shorter fixed stock (Mesa Tactical) rather than the adjustable. The 7 round tube is a must and you may want to add an extension (+2 or +3). Before getting into other mods, we would need to know: What are you going to use the gun for? (Home protection, 3-gun competition, or just a Tacti-cool plinker) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bigd081285 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, NoTycoon said: I would suggest getting a shorter fixed stock (Mesa Tactical) rather than the adjustable. The 7 round tube is a must and you may want to add an extension (+2 or +3). Before getting into other mods, we would need to know: What are you going to use the gun for? (Home protection, 3-gun competition, or just a Tacti-cool plinker) Just home defense and some casual range time And really I thought the adjustable stock was the must have. Is the mesa stock available or is it as unavailable as the adjustable haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrome_robot Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) i am a relatively new owner (sept '20), so i can describe my thought process for this. for me the mesa tactical urbino was the best choice, as i do not need to change the length of pull in any use case that i have and i prefer the aesthetic of the fixed stock over the adjustable. i agree about 7 round extension (making sure that you are in 922r compliance). a larger, grippier charging handle is nice as well with a number of options available (the no spin type is best, i have FFT 1/2" steel). light/sling mount with weapons light is also important to me. wide range of price/quality available, and the photo sections of this forum can offer some inspiring examples of these as well as other great enhancements. enjoy ... Edited January 23, 2021 by chrome_robot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznwhip Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Really the only two must you have left are sling and light. Maybe a better oversized safety and a larger bolt release, but those and everything else is just nice to have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Sling and light. A long gun sucks if you can’t sling it when you need your hands to do other tasks. Having to keep both hands on along gun without a sling is very limiting. I like the BlueForceGear padded two point sling. Sewn in QD sockets are nice. IWC makes a socket for the collapsible stock. Noveske makes one for the fixed oem stocks. I’d look at Modlite offerings for a light. The PLHv2 is very good for the shotgun. Put it on an IWC mount. I’d stick with the oem hand guards or get the FFT reproduction ones if you’re chasing 922 parts. Have them stippled by Tango Industries. Install either the Carriercomp titanium magazine tube or the Briley carbon fiber one. Briley will be the lighter of the two. Oem steel: 10.5 ounces Carriercomp titanium: 5.5 ounces Briley carbon fiber/stainless steel: 3.4 ounces Install a Limbsaver buttpad on the stock. There are various options depending on what stock you settle on. Replace the trigger frame with an A&S Engineering one. Have Briley install their trigger kit or install a FFT kit yourself. Add a FFT enhanced shell elevator. Replace the safety with a Dave’s Metal Works one. Add a GG&G oversized bolt release. Look at the new TTI stainless bolt handle. Consider deleting the iron sights to declutter your optics sight picture and to cut about 4-5 ounces of weight. From there, the only way up involved NP3 plating and loading port modifications. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd081285 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, StrangerDanger said: Sling and light. A long gun sucks if you can’t sling it when you need your hands to do other tasks. Having to keep both hands on along gun without a sling is very limiting. I like the BlueForceGear padded two point sling. Sewn in QD sockets are nice. IWC makes a socket for the collapsible stock. Noveske makes one for the fixed oem stocks. I’d look at Modlite offerings for a light. The PLHv2 is very good for the shotgun. Put it on an IWC mount. I’d stick with the oem hand guards or get the FFT reproduction ones if you’re chasing 922 parts. Have them stippled by Tango Industries. Install either the Carriercomp titanium magazine tube or the Briley carbon fiber one. Briley will be the lighter of the two. Oem steel: 10.5 ounces Carriercomp titanium: 5.5 ounces Briley carbon fiber/stainless steel: 3.4 ounces Install a Limbsaver buttpad on the stock. There are various options depending on what stock you settle on. Replace the trigger frame with an A&S Engineering one. Have Briley install their trigger kit or install a FFT kit yourself. Add a FFT enhanced shell elevator. Replace the safety with a Dave’s Metal Works one. Add a GG&G oversized bolt release. Look at the new TTI stainless bolt handle. Consider deleting the iron sights to declutter your optics sight picture and to cut about 4-5 ounces of weight. From there, the only way up involved NP3 plating and loading port modifications. Slings I'm set on. I have about 10(I have a problem lol) I ended up ordering the strike Industries hayl handguard. Do u recommend or know anyone that has experience mounting a light to its mlok or still recommend the iwc? I got a tube off Socom guy here on the forums along with a Wolff spring just in case I need it Ordered the mesa tactical urbino stock for now w the limbsaver Ordered a TTI oversized bolt release and safety(hopefully they are as good, didnt see your recommendations before I ordered) Only thing left is the trigger, is installing it difficult? I have basic knowledge and tools. I can build ars and such but never messed with shotguns much Thank u for the detailed write up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznwhip Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 If you're looking to mount light to mlok, go Arisaka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 The trigger kit is pretty easy to install. I wrote a tutorial with photos here. I find the Benelli trigger pack to be quite easy. No difficult spring to compress or complex assemblies. Arisaka or IWC will have MLOK mounts for the Strike Industries rail. You can probably get by mounting to the MLOK rather than adding an IWC That rail is pretty comfortable, but the attachment system sucks with tiny set screws. Some users have used RTV to build up a mounting bed for the rail so that those set screws aren’t needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd081285 Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, StrangerDanger said: The trigger kit is pretty easy to install. I wrote a tutorial with photos here. I find the Benelli trigger pack to be quite easy. No difficult spring to compress or complex assemblies. Arisaka or IWC will have MLOK mounts for the Strike Industries rail. You can probably get by mounting to the MLOK rather than adding an IWC That rail is pretty comfortable, but the attachment system sucks with tiny set screws. Some users have used RTV to build up a mounting bed for the rail so that those set screws aren’t needed. Thank you sir appreciate all the tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOCOMguy Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 While we are talking about tube weights.. the Socomguy thin wall steel 7 rd tube weighs 8.8 oz. . I wonder what kind of "heavy weight" stuff the OEM tube is made of at 10.5 oz.., pipe? Joe B 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al sanchez Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) If anyone is looking for a black 7rd magazine tube, www.davesmetalworks.com has it available. He doesn't have the H20 which is what I need. Edited January 29, 2021 by al sanchez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heynowwwww Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 StrangerDanger, Can you provide more details and a picture of this? "Consider deleting the iron sights to declutter your optics sight picture and to cut about 4-5 ounces of weight." Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Heynowwwww said: StrangerDanger, Can you provide more details and a picture of this? "Consider deleting the iron sights to declutter your optics sight picture and to cut about 4-5 ounces of weight." Thank you Sure. Here pis a picture of the M4 with the iron sights removed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heynowwwww Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 10 hours ago, StrangerDanger said: Sure. Here pis a picture of the M4 with the iron sights removed. Thank you sir, very helpful. I thought maybe you plugged the holes. I appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 They don’t hurt anything. You could fill them with black RTV pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel79 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I thought I saw someone post a link to some screws that could be used to fill them in too. They were from Brownells I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03svt Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 https://www.brownells.com/aspx/search/productdetail.aspx?sid=3096&pid=792 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heynowwwww Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 thank you. This forum is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigCowboy Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 17 hours ago, al sanchez said: If anyone is looking for a black 7rd magazine tube, www.davesmetalworks.com has it available. He doesn't have the H20 which is what I need. Did you talk to SOCOMguy, whose post was just above yours. He just made a titanium Cerakote tube for me, perfect color match. Pictures in this thread: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camp Stamp Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 12:13 PM, 03svt said: https://www.brownells.com/aspx/search/productdetail.aspx?sid=3096&pid=792 Out of those plug screw options, which would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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