John P.

Just noticed this tonight--thank you so much. I never win anything, so I hadn't looked!

I had one, and while it was very, very well made, it did add a lot of weight. I'm much lighter and happier with the BLAM mount (I'm just using a Streamlight, no laser), the Carriercomp rail (for if I ever mount an Aimpoint Micro + Larue mount), and a velcro strip on my receiver for an Esstac card of shotgun shells (for when I want them on there). I guess if you plan to hang a lot of crap off of your gun, then the Sidearmor is a nice choice.

Would love those.

Nothing. Ever see Cheney shoot?

Why not just buy the benelli part here?

Good to know, thanks.

I think it's ridiculous, too, but that's "normal."

Looks like he might've suspended them due to focusing on mag tubes b/c of the lawmaking fear/hysteria.

Glad to hear they did this, though I really like the Benelli one I put on my Urbino. Mesa does seem to care.

BLAM is awesome for this purpose. I use it with a streamlight. http://i.picasion.com/pic47/c26fc15385dc5786e9f106c216c776da.gif

Lucky! -jealous in kalicornia

Does the FFT handle spin/rotate wen installed?

That's perfect. Nice acquisition.

Like the others here who live in CA, I'm probably much more familiar with limitations on second amendment rights than the majority of forum members. I know it's probably not a popular opinion on a gun forum, but I'm all for adding hurdles and restrictions on ownership if it meant that a sane, rational, well-intentioned person would have their full 2nd amendment rights as recognized by most of the non-restrictive states. I'd gladly take a routine psych exam, in-person safety training and tests, deeper background check, etc., if it meant that I could have an AR without a bullet button, no 10-round mag limits, and the right to carry. It'd even be nice if I could add a collapsible stock on my Benelli, or--god forbid--even buy one with Last night I read a post from someone on CNN who thought the age of ownership should be raised to late 20s, because most psychotic and schizophrenic conditions manifest by then. Of course, by media accounts the CT shooter took his dead mother's guns and used them at the school, so even if she passed such tests, this still would have happened. Again, putting restrictions on people who follow the law does not deter the criminals. Maybe people's ownership rights should be affected if those in their households are diagnosed with mental conditions? I see a million flaws with that, too. Ultimately I've never heard an argument from the NRA zealots or anti-gun zealots that would address the situation adequately. Confiscation wouldn't work, neither would unbridled availability. I would hope we all recognize the situation now is flawed. Unfortunately, the status quo sucks for those families in CT. I can't even imagine.

I suppose you could just send a "normal" M4 to Robar?

Re: the question about grips--I bought a stock one from Numrich (sp?), pulled the Mesa grip off, and slowly pushed the new one on in its place. Much better!

One hundred percent agree. Not 99%, not 1%--100%.

I've trained at Gunsite before, met the Colonel (obviously before he died) and he gave us a tour of his house. I took full advantage of open carry around town!

If I couldn't walk to the beach in 3 minutes I really couldn't justify all the BS here in CA.

One place to look for answers: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.calguns.net%2Fcaawid%2Fsgflowchart.pdf&ei=-KOUUJSwOuie2AWFwIHABA&usg=AFQjCNHgTa7T_y25zvwZq4JZN7IFU5X3Sg&sig2=a4bUtPhty-8anUklfVWpUw&cad=rja

Not if you want to stay out of jail. It can't have a c-stock and a pistol grip. I know, I know.

Another product (the stock) that we won't be able to use in California.

By the looks of her eye, I have to agree.

I had the Mod 2. It was beautifully made, as it should be for that amount of money. I agree with the Hookster, though--it was just too much weight/mass for rail space I really didn't need. I'm much happier with the BLAM light mount and Esstac shotgun cards.

My, that's a big one.