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**sits back and waits for some 'splainin'**

I heard about this story. Is this why those ACOG scopes cost so GOD-DAMN much?

Im surprised that they allowed your auction to stay posted. They always cancelled my listings whenever I posted an auction because they were in "violation". About 2 yrs ago, I listed a HK91 collapsible stock, and it was removed within 15 minutes. (reason given: it was a semi automatic firearm part that alters the gun). I assume they would've cancelled the Benelli M4 pistol grip stock I listed at the same time, except it sold with a Buy It Now within 4 minutes of listing. A few months later I tried listing a Knoxx Sidewinder kit for the Mossberg 500 with 10 round drum, and 6 round box mag. It was cancelled, even though there were 3 others up which were allowed to be sold, or the auctions were ended due to time (and this was when they still allowed 10 round max mag capacity to be sold on their site). Then a few months ago, I listed up some AR-15 Surefire M83 handguards, and again the listing was cancelled within 15 minutes. At this point, I naturally think they have a vendetta against me because there were at least 100 plus other auctions for AR-15 handguards/parts up which weren't cancelled. I contacted their Cust. Svc rep, who tells me that because I included the word AR-15 in the title and/or description it's a violation. Huh?!? I then realized what they really mean by "violation". eBay is based in California, so I think they follow the firearm parts rule of that State.

I LIKE IT!!

I know that the Benelli M1 pistol grip stock fits on it. And visually, it'll look better than that Beretta club foot looking pistol grip stock

Everytime I want to buy a case of ammo, a new toy pops up for sale that I just have to get. Although I have some, I really need to start stocking up more on ammo.

Try it. This is probably where all these new/old stock collapsibles are coming from.

Damn, that was sweet.

What about THIS

So what you don't like his political stance, you, me, or whoever have that right to disagree with it, but we have to accept it for what it is and live by it if he decides to act. But taunting with what they already feel uneasy about is not the way to go. All those stickers and signs don't send any real messages that can be interpreted wrongly. They're really no different than anything that was made against Bush. And if the guy put one of those stickers/signs, instead of a gun, it would have sent a message that he doesn't like his stance, yet in no way could be percieved as intimidating. Also, stickers/signs aren't likely to get banned. Stickers/signs isn't the reason why he was wearing a bulletproof suit during his inauguration. When's the last time you heard on the news someone was killed by a sticker/sign? I never said he did NOT threaten the President (you underlined MAY NOT HAVE). I said it could be perceived as a threat, especially considering his political stance on the issue. I'll say it again, the secret service wouldn't look at that as, oh "he's just speaking his mind, on his political stance". Every nut job or not is getting their file pulled when it comes to Obama. If a ban was to happen it's not gonna be because of stickers/signs. It's gonna be because of people such as the mother at the range in Florida, and the guy who killed his wife's family and burned the house down, just as much as the those who wanna wag the middle finger in the face of the ones who are in power, and that they disagree with so much, that they go overboard with it.

He may not have threatened, but then what is the reasoning behind putting a gun in the picture. There is none. There is no corralation that can be made between a gun and a plant, or a gun and Obama.

That's all lovely, but it all means nothing. In this climate we live in, you just don't mix the President and a gun. That's either stupidity, or potential threat. I don't care how you try to justify it. If you think this is such a big joke, lets alert authorities and see if they take it as harmless fun. It would be one thing if it was just the chia by itself, and a few reckless words (ex:ugly, funny, stupid, etc), but placing a gun next to it (and a different one for every pic) is borderline threatning. Like I said, it may not be an outright threat, but I'm sure it would cause a knock on the guy's door, or at least some prying into his "file". If someone had a picture/figurine of your child and decided to place a gun next to it, and 4 different guns to boot, you'd think it was harmless fun? No need to answer, I already know.

Exactly. Me, you, and Obama are all upset about that. Only difference is unless flying large jets at a low level is your hobby/passion, those laws have no affect on you. If firearm collecting/target shooting, etc, is your passion, I don't see how you can't see how something like this can be detrimental to your hobby/passion. We have far too many Pvt. Pyles messing it up for the rest of us. Now when one of them finally pushes things too far with a comment, or action, and the rest of us have to run an extra 10 miles (ie: suffer under an AWB, or worse) because of them, we'll wish we would have put our soapbars in our socks (ie: not condoned/publicized the stupidity) and taught 'em a lesson (spoke up about how mixing guns and anything Obama related isn't the smartest thing to do). Disagree with who the CIC is all you want in private, but watch what you say, or post in public/public forums. What I'm saying is actions such as this, gives them more ammunition (no pun) to push for bans and law changes. It's stupidity like this that makes the media, and lawmakers unable to separate someone who has mental issues and shoots innocents for little to no reason, from a law-abiding citizen who happens to like collecting firearms as a hobby. The person who is growing that Chibama may be the latter, but if, just if he was the former, how do you think that reflects on everyone who congratulated/celebrated his post, or thought there was humor in that post? How do you think everyone who got a chuckle from those pictures would be perceived, from the media/lawmakers viewpoint then?

The thing is a chia OBAMA. The guise is that it looks like him before and after growth. Putting guns next to a chia Obama or anything Obama, could be interpreted wrong, irregardless of whatever your point may be. People have to be smarter or when/if these gun laws change we will have noone to blame but ourselves.

Not funny!! When will people learn?? Although there is no outright threat being made, one could possibly interpret the poster as threatning the CIC when you put guns next his likeness.

Were they still alive??

Somebody should jump on it QUICK!! I just purchased mine a few weeks ago NIB for this price, and they've been quietly creeping up in price. Good luck.

How about some pics or maybe... just maybe... . . . prices??

Yes, apply the heat where the tube and receiver meet. And also remove your trigger group.

How high is the temp on your heat gun? The Wagner I have has two temps. Low = 750F/High = 1000F. I blasted mine on high when I was removing the mag tube for a solid 5 - 10 minutes, very close to the reciever and that thing screwed off with minimal pressure. I suggest you do the same. Put the heat on high, as close to the receiver/recoil tube as possible, let it cool, and see if that works. Remember, if your holding the receiver in your left hand with the tube pointing towards you, you should be turning the tube towards your left hand. Good luck

Still WTB.

Your heating the tube with a lighter?? 'Scuse me while I :D. Seriously though, get a heat gun. I bought a nice Wagner that gets the job done every time.

What I'm saying is, what is "market value"? First, you have an unusual set-up. Second, if we're figuring how much your set up is worth buying it 1st hand it'll probably go like this (roundabout figures): Benelli M4 = $1450.00 Col. Stock = $750.00 2nd Barrel = $850.00 Getting 2nd Barrel cut = $250.00 SBS Form Tax = $200.00 Total = $3500.00 Buying from you, add another $200.00 for your transfer to a Form 3, and we're up to $3700.00 Not to come down on you, but I don't think anyone would want to pay $3700.00 for it, so in the end you'll probably looking at losing at least $600.00 - $800.00 before you draw some interest. And even then, for some it'll be a tough sell (headache) because of the BATFE transfers. Now the question is would you want to price it at $2900.00 - $3100.00? I doubt it.

If you want to know what it's worth, put it up for sale at a price you have in mind. If it sells, that's what its worth. If not, that's not what its worth.

Yeah, I'm looking for an original hard copy.