Unobtanium

No, but you CAN bend the rules pretty handily! Like you said, lengthen the time of transfer. Perception is reality. I'll take it!

A Benelli shotgun is reliable and all of the parts actually fit togather properly. Let's not compare it to GM cars. But, if we must... Z06 gives you dry-sump oil system, C6 is wet-sump. Z06 gives you less weight by around 100#. Z06 gives up 1 or 2 MPG IIRC. The Z06 runs high 11's all day, the C6 low 12's to mid 12's. Z06 will out-brake and out-handle the C6 In much the same way, The M4 is more reliable than the M1/2 with ligher loads as a rule The M4 has a metal trigger guard The M4 can be had with a collapsible stock which makes running optics SOoooo much nicer The M4 can accept accessories without choking. The M4 doesn't kick nearly as hard (follow-ups are easier, even if recoil doesnt upset you) Insiginificant you say? Not much difference in the C6 w/Z51 and the Z06 much like there isn't much need for a metal trigger guard on a shotgun? Well, look at it this way. The C6 took over where the C5 Z06 left off, it doesn't feel as sporty as a C5Z, but it's "later and greater"...much like the M4 tougher and cooler than the M2/M1. You chose to spend the coin and get a C6, even though the benefits over the C5Z are mostly...but not all... cosmetic. In much the same way, I chose to get an M4 over an M2, even though the benefits are mostly...but not all... cosmetic. There is still a performance gap that cannot be denied. Yes there are mechanical differences. Yes you will notice them.

Most FUD's who would buy a weapon like the one being marketed are not so savvy. By "most", I mean a market share large enough that the money spent producing the comparison will be more than payed back by the buyers it influences. "Hey Jed, that thar new pump kicks less than an auto shotgun! Billy gots him a brownin' Gold an' it don't kick for beans! I'm gettin' that new pump!!!"

My M4 rides beside me in the passenger side when I go out to the range/whatever.

ar15.com works great for me

Interesting, I guess if you have a $3,000 collection of shotguns in the car going to a 3-gun match or something and some dick busts your window out at a gas-station and ganks your stuff, you will at least cause him some frustration!

I am not sure. I like Glocks, but they are more function than form for me. I have owned a $1200 sig (unreliable), a $2500 custom 1911 (again, unreliable), shot numerous H&K USP's (reliable, pleasing ergo's, accurate), an XD.40 (okay, but nothing I can't live without), and so on. What appeals to me the most is the USPF in .40. What I will most likely end up with is a G19 and a CC permit in a few months. I enjoy the controlability of the glock platform and my friend's G32 was an excellent pistol. Everything I pointed it at, got messed up. Loved it! The 357 SIG round is a unique round, reguardless of what the +P+ 9mm fans have to say about it. Different sound/feel to it. I liked it, but 9mm is more practical.

Get an M1 and SBS it. THAT is some lightweight firepower for ya!

"Ergal" is another term for Aluminum alloy 7075 http://www.suppliersonline.com/propertypages/7075.asp#Spec

I have had and played with everything from my $2500 TRS to the G17 in my drawer, but I always end up selling them, usually to my Dad, lol. They don't go far...

79.99? I think this belongs on airsoft.

As long as you understand that aiming is just as important with a shotgun as it is an AR-15 in the home, you are spot-on!

I use a combination approach, coupled with a t1tty-twister. That one puts them DOWN.

I assume what you mean is that you are more accurate with a rifle than you are with a pistol, which is sound and good logic as most people are. Furthermore, I presume that you know that across the room differences, no matter what you put in that shotgun, it is going to behave about like a rifle.

Duggan, you don't need to aim buckshot. Didn't you hear the man? Just wave the weapon in his general direction and fire. No need to be near COM. Buckshot is like a cone of destruction...

Haha, I don't know whether I laughed harder at Duggan's post, or yours. They were both full to bursting with BS, ignorance and witty self-destructive rhetoric, the only difference I can see is that one was satire, and one was heartfelt and genuine. PS. What is a "product manager"? Let me see what google has to say about that. Hold Manages all aspects of marketing programs for specified product(s). Designs, develops, and executes marketing strategies and directs advertising and promotional activities. May include research and evaluation of new products. ^That is what I found. Which begs the question...product manager for WHO or WHAT, and how loosely/strictly do you follow the generic guideline that I found above? Are you really in a position to insult someone's socio-economic status? How do you feel that the economy is going to affect you? Do you normally identify yourself with your job to this level? Does it take THAT much of your life? Do you identify with it because the only way you define yourself is through it? Have you wondered how healthy/unhealthy this mindset may be? If the economy or some other factor outside of your control were to cause your job to become obsolete, do you think you would de-stabalize, or become introverted and anti-social? How would you deal with these feelings of loss of identity?

http://www.tacticalshotgunner.com/cmm-bolt-release-pad-and-latch-for-benelli-shotguns-p-226.html?osCsid=10e70d64c38c9fa2e4024fb6c018d999

Celtic Mist Machine

What kind of girlyman finds the M4 "heavy"? I mean, really. Your granddaddy humped a rifle that weighed over 10 pounds through W*** (why the **** is World War II "**"ed out!? Damn Obama!) and you are going to whine over going to the range or 3-gun tournaments with a shotgun weighing less than 8? I think this is the first "mod" you should consider... http://www.neuticles.com/

I ran a GG&G and took it off. I skinned my finger on it. I had the stock charging handle. I think that is what caused it. I just run it stock in that department. With a shotgun, you never run dry. You always ALWAYS load. Not shooting? You are loading. Period. Otherwise you are going to be...a sad panda. ETA: BUy the one from CM, save $60. I think it's shaped nicer anyways. If I do it again, that is what I will get, and don't listen to people. This is an easy mod to install.

There has to be a way. It is illogical to remove the tube to change mag-springs. I suggest you pick up the phone and call Benelli. Their CS is beyond awesome in my experience. 1(301)283-6981

Good stuff. Well, the collapsible stock is exactly the same as the regular one when fully extended. Anyone who says otherwise is either pushing their face WAY foreward on it, or pulling it WAY back. For me, it felt the same. Also, if you are going to run optics, the collapsible stock on the middle position is all but mandatory to get the correct cheek-weld. If you don't like it. Sell it. Make $50-100.

It is most likely an aluminum alloy like 7056 or 6061 or something similar. I can't see it being anything else.

I guess it IS more challenging to hit skeet and if you are so good that 12ga is "easy" then I can see it.

Well think about this: The stocks weigh the same. The barrels are the same length. Yet one is almost 1.5# heavier than the other. Those gas-pistons sure don't weigh 1.5#, and the modified BCG doesn't account for all of it either. so what does that tell you?