Sukhoi_fan

That's exactly what I've been looking for...where can I get that setup??

Very nice lineup. It's worth noting that lever action rifles make fine 'aggie assault rifles' since one can keep the tube magazines topped off while shooting and scooting (however one drawback is that if the mag tube gets dented you may have problems). And on another note, there's no way in the world that the S-12 comes close to the sweet ergonomics of modern weapons such as the M4, SCAR, etc. in particular with respect to FAST mag changes. IMHO, the S-12 is perfectly suited for two scenarios - as an ambush gun in a fixed, barricaded position, or as an integral part of a fire team with adequate numbers (of course all armed with modern semi-auto rifles which accommodate fast mag changes) - and that's about it. Although the S-12 with a 20 round drum is a LOT of firepower it is just not well suited for fire and maneuver tactics from a stand alone perspective. Again, jmo.

Viewing things strictly from a tactical perspective based upon my own RW experience (justified shooting with a five round pump, and I can tell you from my own personal first hand experience it's the worst feeling in the world to be down to 1 or 2 rounds when the fight is still ongoing, therefore I now place a very high priority on having a topped off mag and extra ammo at hand) along with hanging out for several years with those who carry a gun for a living (seasoned patrol officers, SWAT, gov's security detail) a detachable mag fed shotty is at a disadvantage to a tube fed mag shotty, even if limited to five rounds. The reason being is that with practical tactical shotgun use in a social situation one is generally in much closer proxmity to the bad guy(s). I can't think of a single 'stand alone' tactical scenario (meaning you're completely on your own with no help coming anytime soon) where a detachable mag shotgun would be preferable to tube mag shotgun. For one thing, who is able to maintain a count of their shots under stressfire?? Just not gonna happen, I don't care how much training one has had. In a tactical situation one MUST be firing and maneuvering, and while on the move one should be topping off one's tube mag. Not practical to top off a detachable mag, have to wait for the appropriate time to change to a fresh mag - way too many uncertainties with that. What if one has a face to face shootout with multiple assailants at 7 yards (the average distance in social situations) and one only has 1 or 2 rounds left in one's detachable magazine since one hasn't been able to keep topping it off like one could with a standard tube mag? Oops. And additionally, where do you carry all those HUGE spare shotgun mags?? One bandolier = 50 rounds of shotgun ammo, to match that one would need FIVE 10 round mags or TWO 20 round drums (if one has a 3rd 20 round drum in their S-12). Also, there's only one shotgun with a detachable magazine worth considering and that's the Saiga 12 - although a respectable, reliable shotgun definitely NOT the optimum profile of a tactical shotgun for shoot and scoot in CQB/social situations. Saiga 12 with ten round mag - Of course JMO, YMMV.

Random post for a random giveaway.

Expect that, everything is as it should be on your M4 from your description.

I put a M1014 barrel on my M4 and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary regarding the M4 handguards going back on.

Fixed choke is a matter of preference, I prefer the fixed choke, one less thing to go wrong. Some folks put a premium on the M1014, I see it as just another M4 although the c-stock does add to the value even though it doesn't retract with the existing recoil tube/receiver extension. IMO $2k is reasonable for a 'like new' M1014 although I'd offer less. I acquired one showing some use so I didn't (and wouldn't) pay a premium for a M1014 simply because it's billed as 'xxx of 2500' and has a flag on the receiver.

No, you're a complete moron who doesn't comprehend sound tactics. If you wanna play games to see how fast you can empty a mag get a Saiga 12 or a FN SLP.

Date code on the 121/SL80 is found on the barrel, the two letters are framed by a small box.

The only aftermarket stocks that fit the SL80, 121, and 121M1 are a couple of Choate Machine and Tool stocks, one a standard field stock and the other a PG stock. I've had both (Choate mistakenly shipped a PG stock when I ordered a standard stock) and be advised that either Choate stock adds considerable weight to the 121M1 over the OEM wood stock and that substantial extra mass may affect the function since the 121M1 is inertia operated. As for availability you would have to check with Choate Machine and Tool, however when I ordered mine 4-5 years ago I talked to the owner and he indicated that what he had in inventory was all he was ever going to have since it costs him tens of thousands to make a production run and demand for that item has dropped to near zero.

No heat required to remove the screws fastening the picatinny rail.

JMO: two entirely different weapon systems for two entirely different purposes. For CQB/personal protection and versatility the Benelli M4 (or M2) w/ a FL tube rules. Plus a shotty is far more 'socially acceptable' in 'social' situations than a centerfire semi-auto (i.e. real life scenarios where one is most likely to be having to use a long arm in self-defense).

Price drop.

Still available.

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The very first thing you want to look into is full and positive stroking of the action as that strikes me as a short stroke since you noted "the shot was hurried".

No. 10 char

Price drop, added NIW 3 notch receiver extension as a option.

Not just guns, but also high end scopes and other items as well. If it sounds too good to be true...

I wasn't referring to any USGI item, only personal items.

The block in the above link is still there, only the roll pin was drilled out. As noted previously, this is the stock which I drilled out to the appropriate size (of the fastener furnished by MT) because I was unaware of the roll pin inside that hole in the rubber grip. MT provided no instructions with the QD cup, fastener, and swivel. Additionally, I called MT and specifically asked about how to install the fastener they furnished - the girl on the phone at MT instructed me to drillout the hole to the size of the MT provided fastener (I asked her twice about this to make certain I heard that explicitly). So that's exactly what I did, and I gotta tell ya that Benelli uses only the highest quality steel for their roll pins lol. In hindsight I'm wondering about what the MT people were thinking. The MT furnished fastener appears to be the same size as the roll pin - not much left after whittling that down to get to the ID of the roll pin lol. The roll pin should really be punched out for the installation of this MT sling attachment. Of course had I known there was a roll pin in there I would have punched it out and inserted the supplied fastener in it's place. The original roll pin is the only part that's missing. There are no fit or alignment issues with respect to the block in the above link, as I've found this c-stock PG will fit both an early model and a late model gun and indexes as easily as the standard buttstock (or the other c-stocks I've had) as is. If someone wanted to remove the QD cup that would just be a matter of unscrewing the fastener, removing the cup, and re-inserting the fastener. Having been drilled out I can't say whether a new roll pin would work or not. If one was wanting to return it to original by replacing the roll pin then it may be necessary to replace the block referenced in the above link. I guarantee it to be in good working condition as is, however just like with any other good working condition item if there were any alterations from existing condition there would be no guarantee. And thx for the link and the tip SD. Apparently I've been under the mistaken impression that having a QD sling attachment is an value-added sorta thing. Noted. Really, I'm just trying to clear this out, perhaps someone would get a deal (make me an offer...got an excellent condition standard stock?). If I don't get a bite soon I'll simply spend the $25 for the block and roll pin to *transform* it. lol And NO, I don't have the original roll pin. lol

Price drop.

I'd be extremely cautious about that and take the appropriate prudent measures, scam artists routinely post on TGT.

If I had some extra boot money laying around I'd grab this one, however unfortunately atm I don't (NOTE: I would only do a FTF on this one as the party listing this only joined TGT today, FYI - Killeen = Ft. Hood, and sometimes troops at Ft. Hood unload their stuff at bargain basement prices) - http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=419171

[ATTACH=CONFIG]2218[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]2219[/ATTACH] This c-stock is off a limited edition M1014.