xamoel Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 hi guys, as you know, German gun laws are kind of restrictive. f.e., we can only have 2 handguns, for any further handgun we need to get an extra permission. so i thought about purchasing one with high round capacity, like a glock in .40S&W, and one with a bigger caliber, like a HK45. now what guns would you get, if you can only have 2 handguns? best regards xamoel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needncash Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 My opinion is that you should select 2 of the same caliber and brand. I sold all the other stuff and stuck with 3 .40 caliber glocks. Now I only have to purchase 1 pistol ammo in bulk and I can use full size mags in the smaller size frame as well. I can share accessories, some internal parts and for the most part have the same trigger and grip feel just a longer slide on the larger models. For instance, full size on your hip with 15 rounds, 2 extra 15 round mags, and a compact under your arm with 13 rounds. 58 rounds of .40 s&w and if the fullsize should fail the compact uses the larger mags too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 What's the purpose for the handgun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoracer1486 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 What's the purpose for the handgun? Nice effort to try and derail the post...very helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamoel Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 don't be too hard on him! mainly for HD, and self defense when hunting boars. AAAND zombie-apocalypse of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renault Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 needcash makes a good point for any situation you'd probably need to have multiple guns... but this thread seemed to be more of a fantastical thread where you would mix in being tacticool and having variety and you went and ruined it with good points and logic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCWinDC? Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 My opinion is that you should select 2 of the same caliber and brand. I sold all the other stuff and stuck with 3 .40 caliber glocks. Now I only have to purchase 1 pistol ammo in bulk and I can use full size mags in the smaller size frame as well. I can share accessories, some internal parts and for the most part have the same trigger and grip feel just a longer slide on the larger models. For instance, full size on your hip with 15 rounds, 2 extra 15 round mags, and a compact under your arm with 13 rounds. 58 rounds of .40 s&w and if the fullsize should fail the compact uses the larger mags too. Good point, Glock 31c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novaking Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Ruger GP-100 .357 6 inch and his little brother SP-101 .357. 3 inch. Best of both worlds. Forget about the plastic toy glocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1968LS2 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 My two are a H&K .45 and a SIG 225 9mm... If I had a third it would be my Ruger SP101 since it's pretty much a tank. They all serve different purposes, right tool for the right job and all of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler&kochp2000 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 For knock down power a .40-.45 for accuracy 9mm Germans make good guns H&K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h.bowman Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I have 2 H&K. I have 2 GLOCK. I have 2 1911. I keep the 1911s, you can have the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamoel Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 alright, deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioM4 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) Unfortunately, I think we should all pay closer attention to ammo. I read a zombie/apocalypse website last night and their concern is that some calibers will become very scarce, very quickly in any type of real emergency. The military calibers were considered the safest regarding supply and availability of surplus. Although my personal experience was that 357Sig was the only thing on the shelf during the worst of the ammo shortages. I tend to disagree with the premise of keeping everything in one caliber. I have a SIG P226SCT in 40cal. I can change the caliber to 357Sig by just changing the barrel. I was considering buying a caliber converison kit for 9mm but the prudent choice would be to purchase another P226 in 9mm. Everything should be largely interchangeable and I could convert to any of the three calibers depending on the ammo available. I also expect any tightening of gun regulation to hit us from the ammo supply side. They can tax ammo until it is prohibitively expensive. No violation of your second amendment rights but no one will be able to afford to shoot. I'm considering buying some bullet molds in different calibers and one of the small reloading presses. Possibly one of the mini hand held ones. Something that can be stashed easily. I like the SIG P226 for holster carry and as a night stand gun. I am considering a J-Frame S&W Revolver as my CCW. If you are limited to just two guns, it sounds like you are the target market for the SIG P250. The mechanism has the serial number and there are different slide, caliber conversions, and grip modules. One gun can be re-configured as a high capacity night stand gun and switched over to a mini for CCW. I fired one at the range and was very tempted. I started to see kits sold with the full size and mini frames together. Edited March 2, 2010 by OhioM4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 My kimber commander .45 and my soon to be Mac 10 full auto 9mm!! its a pistol!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Dak© Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I'm with skeeter, my MAC M-10 in .45 (30 rd mags and 1200 rpm) and my sterling MK-4 in 9mm (the best 34 rd mags ever designed, and 600 rpm). 'course the MAC gets pretty long with the old sionics silencer (even with the stock collapsed), and the sterling is a bit long for conceled with the stock folded, so my conceled rig is a Ruger P90DC in .45 with two extra mags hanging. The other stuff is for zombies and revolutions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Dak© Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I tend to disagree with the premise of keeping everything in one caliber. I agree! While having all one caliber makes it cheaper to stockpile, if there's a shortage of some ammo, you need to be able to use what's still available. At least that's my take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needncash Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Additional good points have been made but I feel we are going the wrong direction now. Of course full-auto Mac's kick ass but if SHTF would you really want to spray ammo 1200 rounds at a time or put rounds where they are needed individually? Regardless of ammo preference and brand preference. I think 5000+ rounds of any handgun ammunition and a few matching pistols would be more than enough. Bottom line, plastic or steel and caliber are personal preference. Just have enough ammo to feed em and a twin to rob for parts if one should fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalKoala Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 My kimber commander .45 and my soon to be Mac 10 full auto 9mm!!its a pistol!! Kimber Eclipse, one is enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Regardless of ammo preference and brand preference. I think 5000+ rounds of any handgun ammunition and a few matching pistols would be more than enough. CHECK I'll take a 9mm handgun of my choice, XDm and a 22lr High Standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 yeah i bought the mac in 9mm so my wife could shoot it too. after all 9mm is an all around GIRL round!! now bring it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 hey SuperDuck, answer your messages!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novaking Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 yeah i bought the mac in 9mm so my wife could shoot it too. after all 9mm is an all around GIRL round!! now bring it!! So are .223's , 2 3/4, and 3 inch shotgun shells. Wussy m4 and AR's. Get you a nova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 My favorite 2 hand guns are the 2 I own. Kimber CDP II compact 45 ACP (best hand gun I have ever owned or shot) Ruger MK III 22LR that I have turned into a bulls eye pistol that shoots really really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKETW19 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 yeah i bought the mac in 9mm so my wife could shoot it too. after all 9mm is an all around GIRL round!! now bring it!! this is a must no worring about spraying ammo. top notch stuff right here but get in line now it took me 6 months. http://www.max-11.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdiazdetuesta Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 My hand guns of choice would be my xd .45 tactical and my smith performance 357 mag. I use the .45 for personal defense and my 357 is my side arm when hunting for the greater range. Not to say I don't enjoy shooting my hk 9 or my sig p226 .40SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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