texas skeeter Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 looking at front door while pitch black in the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 looking at garage door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 I thought 900 lumens would be brighter. Like reaching a peek level where it is mostly a gamma ray burst. You could then see the subjects skeleton standing behind a block wall from 50 feet away. Sterilizes targets within 0.25 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tactical1 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 He's got it set on the low power setting to keep the door from catching on fire:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super33 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 How long can you hold it in one spot before something burns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1811 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 That is for sure blinding...NICE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 He's got it set on the low power setting to keep the door from catching on fire:) it damn near blistered the paint!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 How long can you hold it in one spot before something burns? Um, for about 5 seconds!! this F--king beast weighs a ton with all this crap on it!! in an actual situation ill need all the adrenaline i can get to keep on target!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 That is for sure blinding...NICE! YUP!! ask my wife and dogs. they were my guinea pigs!! and my wife said at no time could she see my silouette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoAtrox Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Does it strobe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamoel Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 at first i didn't believe it, but weight really starts becoming an issue with the M4, with all the junk hanging on the rails. i probably should go to the gym more (and i go every 2 days) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Unless that is on it's lowest setting, that is only about 150-200L at the very best. 900L OTF is not possible through an LED without a quad-die using DD and IMR power-source, and even then run-time is still limited because we cannot heat-sink the dies well enough at that level of output yet. Honestly, 900L might require multiple single/quad dies placed on a board with individual reflectors/optics wired togather. 900L is a TON! The most you will see at this stage of the game in anything you want hanging on an AR/Shotgun is around 4-600L. Yes, you could hang a DD P7 in a bored out 6P, but that is something only a hardcore flashaholic would do (would get you 5-700L), and I have never seen anyone do that. Once you get THAT into flashlights, it is your primary hobby, not your secondary hobby for the purpose of procuring a weapon-light. Most people buy some crappy chinese drop-in and leave it at that believing whatever the package says. The right way to do it is to buy a 6PD and one of TNVC's adapters and their new TX4 head, which they CLAIM puts out 600 OTF Lumens, but which I suspect in reality puts out around 400 or so (due to claimed run-time and the binning of the quad-dies used). Either the lumen output is off, the run-time is off, or the circuitry is VERY VERY VERY! advanced. The most likely is that circuitry is on-par with the rest of the community, run-time is +- 5-10 minutes, and the lumens are off. I would bet it is 4-475 OTF L. Still, this is an EXCELLENT! unit based on the beam-shots I have seen, and the price ($200 total for the whole thing if you build it). IT appears to have good spill and a nice hot-spot. I do not know the 1m or 3m LUX ratings, yet. I have asked. Or a used M600C (180L average, but with GREAT! throw). Or a 6PD and Malkoff M60 (220-240L avg, GREAT! spill, GOOD throw). Or a 6PD with a Malkof MC-E (450-550 OTF L, All spill, moderate throw). PS. He is a real 180-190 OTF L (measured in a properly calibrated IS) in my living-room: http://www.glowfoto.com/static_image/19-094215L/9062/jpg/05/2010/img6/glowfoto Edited May 19, 2010 by Unobtanium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 There is no way in **** that is even half of the claimed lumens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 There is no way in **** that is even half of the claimed lumens. I peg it at 150-200, probably closer to 150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 I peg it at 150-200, probably closer to 150. Yep. Sure looks it. It's like the VORTEX INTAKE ADDONS that claim to add UP TO 15 HP by increasing the air velocity, but 10x worse. Lumen ratings are perhaps the most abused and inaccurate "scientific metric" ever created. It's turned into a pure marketing ploy, where the claimed number of lumens has absolutely no bearing on the true OTF lumens. Surefire claimed 120 lumens for ages on LEDs that put out 180-220 lumens ... and every cheap light you find claims 500+ lumens and really puts out ~150. What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Yep. Sure looks it. It's like the VORTEX INTAKE ADDONS that claim to add UP TO 15 HP by increasing the air velocity, but 10x worse. Lumen ratings are perhaps the most abused and inaccurate "scientific metric" ever created. It's turned into a pure marketing ploy, where the claimed number of lumens has absolutely no bearing on the true OTF lumens. Surefire claimed 120 lumens for ages on LEDs that put out 180-220 lumens ... and every cheap light you find claims 500+ lumens and really puts out ~150. What a joke. +1 Lots of them claim "emitter lumens" but don't specify, and people think that means OTF, but these 900+ lumen claims are just random BS numbers that someone thought would sell (sadly it does). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novaking Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 I have to agree on this one. It looks like the same light out of my 120 lumen surefire g2. Sorry Skeeter, I think you got screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 YAWN...... http://www.jetbeam.com.cn/links/pro/rrt3.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Fab Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Skeeter, don't listen to all the light haters, you go on and dance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4JOHN Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 YAWN...... http://www.jetbeam.com.cn/links/pro/rrt3.aspx Double Yawnnnnnnn http://www.opticsplanet.net/surefire-hellfighter-tactical-spotlight.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Double Yawnnnnnnn http://www.opticsplanet.net/surefire-hellfighter-tactical-spotlight.html It's only 3,000 lumens? Just tape three of the Jetbeams together and save enough money to buy a couple of Benellis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unobtanium Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) YAWN...... http://www.jetbeam.com.cn/links/pro/rrt3.aspx Yawn indeed. It weighs over a pound without the mount. It's like 3X as big around as the 6P. It takes SIX CR123's. Who the **** wants that on a weapon? The light produces some output, but it is not what I want on a weapon. Edited May 20, 2010 by Unobtanium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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texas skeeter Posted May 20, 2010 Author Share Posted May 20, 2010 i dont know what to tell ya all other than the seller claimed it to be a 900 lumen 4-LED light. and it works great for my purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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