StrangerDanger Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Anyone tried one of these yet? https://www.dpmsystems.com/benellim4-super-90-m1014-12-gauge-4-user-adjustable-settings/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFWSFO Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 This looks interesting. Might pick it up to give it a whirl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 The tool for removing the stock retaining screw looks like a nice tool to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma05 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Installation Instructions Instructions seem pretty straight forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Looks like a high quality piece. I have to wonder though if messing with the inertia of the bolt carrier (creating more resistance) might cause malfunctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTycoon Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 My M4 has the lightest recoil of any 12 ga. that I have ever tried. How much lighter can it get? If one of you gets one, please let us know how it goes. I might look into getting the one for the Hellcat, that little gun has some recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma05 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 3 hours ago, NoTycoon said: My M4 has the lightest recoil of any 12 ga. that I have ever tried. How much lighter can it get? If one of you gets one, please let us know how it goes. I might look into getting the one for the Hellcat, that little gun has some recoil. I run one on my Steyr pistol and it does make a difference on handguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 I ordered one from gunbroker to try out. Didn’t want to have to wait for shipping from Greece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegie Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 following, looks interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milspec Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Looks like they have some interesting stuff. I don't like the fact they have multiple springs with the pistol guide rods. If they came up with two how about make a Goldie Locks version in the middle? Then and just go with that spring/weight. I don't want to have to think that hard and play mad scientist burning through ammo back and forth. Once decided my mind will then play tricks on me and tell me to go back to the other spring. Then back to the other, I don't need that aggravation. In my mind I've defeated the idea before I've even tried it. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Milspec said: Looks like they have some interesting stuff. I don't like the fact they have multiple springs with the pistol guide rods. If they came up with two how about make a Goldie Locks version in the middle? Then and just go with that spring/weight. I don't want to have to think that hard and play mad scientist burning through ammo back and forth. Once decided my mind will then play tricks on me and tell me to go back to the other spring. Then back to the other, I don't need that aggravation. In my mind I've defeated the idea before I've even tried it. LOL I hear ya. If designed correctly, the spring choice won’t cause failures, it will just not be as effective as running a different weight. When the bolt carrier slams to the end of the plunger, it starts to engage the internal spring buffer. Too soft, and the the moving carrier just slams into the end of the recoil tube. Too stiff and it is like hitting the bottom as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTycoon Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Could not wait to hear how it works. I went ahead and ordered two springs from Zahal (Israeli Tactical Gear). One for the M4 and one for the Hellcat. I need to stop reading about new gear ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 I’m still waiting on mine. Slowest. Shipping. Ever. Might as well be Optics Planet or Brownells free shipping which goes 8th class Pony Express. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No. 6 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 9th class Turtle Express? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTycoon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Following my order with Zahal (and the 12% discount offered on the site banner), they sent me a discount code for 25% off. One of you may want to use FLASH25 to order yourself one of the recoil reduction rods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTycoon Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 On 5/17/2020 at 11:47 AM, StrangerDanger said: I’m still waiting on mine. Slowest. Shipping. Ever. Might as well be Optics Planet or Brownells free shipping which goes 8th class Pony Express. Any update? Mine are still stuck in Greece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClackClackBAM Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 @StrangerDanger, what do you think about this system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 Still waiting. Sent a Karen email over the weekend asking where it was. They replied they’d look into it. It’s been over a month now. I might report them to gunbroker if it doesn’t turn up soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTycoon Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 11 hours ago, StrangerDanger said: Still waiting. Sent a Karen email over the weekend asking where it was. They replied they’d look into it. It’s been over a month now. I might report them to gunbroker if it doesn’t turn up soon. Perhaps the gunbroker merchant is waiting for a shipment from Greece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 3 hours ago, NoTycoon said: Perhaps the gunbroker merchant is waiting for a shipment from Greece. Perhaps. However that should be disclosed in the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTycoon Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 OK, my parts have landed in the US at a USPS facility in Wisconsin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonLancewood Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) Looks pretty neat and reminds me of the dual recoil assemblies on the HK USP. Adding this to the system won't effect the inertia of the bolt carrier but will change the spring force it sees during firing and hopefully the perceived recoil. My guess is that they're shooting for some type of progressive spring system that kicks in as the buffer nears the end of its travel? That tool has me more excited than the buffer ? Edited June 19, 2020 by JonLancewood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share Posted June 19, 2020 I want that tool too! The design should work to keep the bolt carrier from coming to a dead blow hit at the end of rearward travel. Instead of just bottoming out, it should land on that spring loaded plunger assembly. Hopefully mine is sitting in customs as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTycoon Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Good news, and bad. My package finally arrived from Israel. It only contained my second order for my XDm. No parts for the M4, nor the Hellcat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTycoon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Better news, the M4 and Hellcat recoil parts arrived today. Just in a different package and with no tracking information. Now I just need for the weather to clear so that I can get out to the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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