RxArms Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Good Day all, I am putting out a feeler for how many would be interested in such a product. Titanium is a bit softer than steel in relation to density, so over time the "teeth" that engage with the hardened steel detent will wear. However, I have also noticed this also taking place on steel caps as well. I've also seen Aluminum magazine caps on cheaper turkish guns that engage steel detents, which hold up over time (albiet with a bit of deformation also). Why Titanium? Well, it is about 50% of the weight of steel (the end cap is fairly heavy). And it is very strong. I would also copy the OEM design exactly as is, if it ain't broke... I can offer a cerekote graphite black on it to replicate the OEM colour scheme. EDIT: If you are interested, please visit this page and sign up for the Ti Cap so I can get an acurate idea. Thanks! https://www.rxarms.com/out-of-stock Edited March 3, 2022 by RxArms 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I’ll take a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I would likely buy two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milspec Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Sounds cool. I’m assuming it would omit the polymer/plastic cover over the cap? Will black be available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RxArms Posted March 3, 2022 Author Share Posted March 3, 2022 Just now, Milspec said: Sounds cool. I’m assuming it would omit the polymer/plastic cover over the cap? Will black be available? Yes would not be any polymer or anything, just titanium, cerkote black. I may even try to engineer it a bit better on the inside to shave off more weight, I am in conversation with my machine shop engineer to see what we can do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkay67 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I run the Nordic +1 extension (in addition to the 7 round tube) to balance out the breacher muzzle. Not really in my plans but I think its great more alternatives keep being made like small entrepreneurs like yourself. Thanks for supporting the M4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetSweeper56 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrhug3 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 In. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treetommy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Absolutely in, just ordered a second charging handle. I’m confident the craftsmanship will be top notch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullassault Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I’d probably get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I would be interested, but contingent on weight savings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben elLes Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I seem to buy everything so ya sure. I signed up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I'd consider an aluminum one over titanium for weight savings. I'd also look into making have an embedded hardened steel ring around the base so the detent didn't chew it up the ratcheting teeth. The parts could be threaded together and bound together permanently. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 4 hours ago, StrangerDanger said: I'd consider an aluminum one over titanium for weight savings. I'd also look into making have an embedded hardened steel ring around the base so the detent didn't chew it up the ratcheting teeth. The parts could be threaded together and bound together permanently. I’ve been running a m4 clone aluminum clone cap for around a thousand rounds and no wear on it .For the weight savings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RxArms Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 47 minutes ago, rubicon20032003 said: I’ve been running a m4 clone aluminum clone cap for around a thousand rounds and no wear on it .For the weight savings I'll look into Aluminum, I just figured the M4 crowd likes the status of Ti a bit Ti price might be too unreasonable to make it viable, still waiting on pricing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, RxArms said: I'll look into Aluminum, I just figured the M4 crowd likes the status of Ti a bit Ti price might be too unreasonable to make it viable, still waiting on pricing. I’d rather have ti one myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetSweeper56 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I'd rather have raw Ti than all black or OEM color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RxArms Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, StreetSweeper56 said: I'd rather have raw Ti than all black or OEM color. I can blast some for those that prefer natural look 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xblax619 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I would probably get one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quest450 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I'm in for one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigoo7e Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Put me down for one @RxArms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RxArms Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 Heard back from the machine shop today regarding these. Some changes have to made to the design, due to the polymer mold that is used on the current cap, some aspects of the design are not practical. Instead of the lines popping out on top of the mold, the lines will be milled down into the handle (instead of protruding). As a result, this will lighten the cap a bit, but the look will be a bit different. Otherwise the milling time required will not make the cost feasible. This is the biggest change to the look of the cap. Still waiting on estimated weights vs the steel variant, I'll report back when I have the info. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, EzGoingKev said: Which clone brand/model uses an aluminum cap? My four peaks had a aluminum cap on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RxArms Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 Ok so here’s the deal, the original cap is mostly polymer, it actually has a very low weight of 37 grams, titanium would be 48g (est), aluminum would be 29g (est). so the only viable weight reduction would be using aluminum, which would save roughly 8g. I can still do a run of these if you guys are still interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetSweeper56 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 The difference between the titanium and polymer and is 11g and 19g vs aluminum. Those are negligible to me for a big increase in durability; my vote is for titanium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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