LabradorGuy Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I was just on the Remington site looking at their new guns for 2008 and noticed this one: http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_870/model_870_TAC_Desert_Recon.asp The 870 Tac Desert Recon. It seems okay, nothing fancy, then I noticed the choke tube. It's an extended choke drilled full of holes with a serrated tip. They call it the "Tactical" choke (those quote marks are from them, which makes you wonder). Does anyone know what this choke does? Why the holes and serrated tip? It doesn't look like a muzzle break and I've never heard of a flash suppressor on a shotgun. I'm curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caligvla Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I saw that too, I really think it's more about marketing than anything else, with jagged edge and ports on that tube, it makes the gun look fierce to somebody. I think functionality was NOT the primary purpose of that design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhen Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Those ports might reduce muzzle flip a bit. The jags are pure cosmetic. I want one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 See response below by Lakotah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtCathy Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I've noticed a lot of Mossberg combat pumps have those same muzzle attachments. Mossberg claims it's a door breaching devise and designed just to look "mean". I read some place on Remington's web page that it's helps control muzzle rise. The choke does look very meanish. I figure it's a srcambled egg device (hold muzzle straight up, place egg on muzzle, pull trigger), or a fancy back scratcher. SgtCathy Cape Cod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakotah Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Those are not pure cosmetic. I can't believe all the tactical junkies on here and nobody knows what they are. LOL. It is a breaching choke. Used to breach doors, locks, glass, chains, etc. It keeps the weapon from blowing back on you. The holes release the gas to keep the weapon from blowing back in your face or damaging the barrel end. Too bad they didn't have this at SHOT. I would have loved to see it. Well, if they did have it there, I didn't see it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabradorGuy Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 How does a breaching choke work? Do you jam the muzzle right up against a lock or do you shoot from a distance? I've never heard of such a thing before. I'm very interested, it sounds like fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickbricky Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I wouldn't carry that thing around in my front pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caligvla Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Now I want a breaching choke for my M4 seems like the way to go next time I lock myself out of the house... http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6782651-fulltext.html check it out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakotah Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 How does a breaching choke work? Do you jam the muzzle right up against a lock or do you shoot from a distance? I've never heard of such a thing before. I'm very interested, it sounds like fun. A breaching choke is used in the event that you cannot quickly and safely make it through an obstacle. For example: Your about to enter a building to be cleared, the door is locked, no key available. You place the breaching choke right against the lock, pull the trigger and it blows the lock. Anytime you use a breaching shotgun, the breach has to be against whatever you are going to remove or destroy to make it into whatever your entry team is going into. If the breach is not against the object in question, then you have the possiblity of blowback and it could end up injuring somebody or worse. So jam it into whatever it is you want to get out of your way and pull the trigger. Easy as that. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabradorGuy Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 This sounds very cool. I wonder why Remington is not advertising it as a breaching choke? You would think that would really boost sales (I want one!). Instead they give some vague line about reducing muzzle climb. Why be vague about a cool piece of gear? Strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakotah Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 No tellin buddy, no tellin. I am actually fitting one to my Ithaca 37 as we speak. I started the project about 8 months ago lookin for a barrel with one already added, but never came up with one. I first saw the one piece barrel/attachment on the mossberg and thought, Man, I gotta have that. So I been playin with it on my Ithaca for awhile now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH/QuakerBoyProstaff Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Remington's lawyers might be trying to play it safe and not encourage any "issues" by untrained users. I would love to see those edges on a turkey choke,though.It would look so trick.Especially if they shaped each jag like a little spur!lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Lakotah, Overall good information. One little thing needs correcting. Breech is indeed a gun part, but is at the other end of the barrel. A classic example of breech loading weapon would be an O/U shotgun. The choke tube goes on the muzzle. The breach choke is so named because it is used to breach (break through or severe) an obstacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakotah Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Lakotah, Overall good information. One little thing needs correcting. Breech is indeed a gun part, but is at the other end of the barrel. A classic example of breech loading weapon would be an O/U shotgun. The choke tube goes on the muzzle. The breach choke is so named because it is used to breach (break through or severe) an obstacle. Ya, what you said. LOL. Its also called a standoff device. I meant what you said, but just typed it wrong. Sometimes it gets lost in translation when you type instead of speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10Gauge Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 widely used in military & police "riot" situations to push back a crowd....i.e "Stand-off" tool. On the end of the muzzle and pushed or shoved into someone on the receiving end it promotes discomfort to the would be bad guy....or angry liberal anti-gun terrorist!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caligvla Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 ...or angry liberal anti-gun terrorist!! That's 90% of the population of my state! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_tech_guy Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Does anyone know where to find one of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 It is a non-lethal compliance tool. In layman's terms, you can poke the SOB into someone's chest and they will be more inclined to do what you tell them. Worse comes to worse, the holes will bleed off most of the gasses if you end up pulling the trigger in such a situation. A lot of muzzle-devices are compliance tools, esp. with the AR-15 series weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris870 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 i know this is a fairly old topic, but i happened to find it in a google search...i work at a gun shop and we have a tactical 870 that i only like because of the choke...i have an 870 of my own that i would like to put one of those chokes on...how do i go about getting just that choke tube in the picture toward the start of this thread?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MueveloNYC Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 serrated edges remind me of the scalloped tactical flashlights. These are for striking, and can easily break glass or hurt someone. So I guess you could use it to bang glass open if you didn't want to waste a round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris870 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 how can i get my hand on one of them though? not listed on remington website, cant find them anywhere on the internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENELEO Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 A breaching choke is used in the event that you cannot quickly and safely make it through an obstacle. For example: Your about to enter a building to be cleared, the door is locked, no key available. You place the breaching choke right against the lock, pull the trigger and it blows the lock. Anytime you use a breaching shotgun, the breach has to be against whatever you are going to remove or destroy to make it into whatever your entry team is going into. If the breach is not against the object in question, then you have the possiblity of blowback and it could end up injuring somebody or worse. So jam it into whatever it is you want to get out of your way and pull the trigger. Easy as that. Hope this helps. Another note, these are ONLY used with a special "powdered" lead or sintered iron load. That way when it transits through the door, it is nothing but dust on the other side, no shot to injure any one inside. These are used by the entry man on a SWAT team, for high risk entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbG Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Just Google "Door Breaching" and you will find more info and videos than you could possibly want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoby Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Royal Arms International.com makes and sells breacher chokes that attach to choked barrels. An adapter is needed to mount the Breacher onto barrel and the adapter installs in the barrel after removing the regular choke. You can also buy a new barrel with attached permanent breacher. $325. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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