Sukhoi_fan

What would the mechanical fastener securing the pistol grip tap into? On an AR it taps into the receiver itself. A shotgun has a quite a bit more recoil than an AR especially when shooting slugs/magnum loads. Sounds like a recipe for failure to me.

If you're the only one with access to the gun then why be concerned about having the safety on when the hammer is down on an empty chamber? I would think it's definitely better for your hammer spring to be unloaded when stored. The safety on my Winchester Model 12 won't engage when uncocked - that's how I know it's unloaded, the safety won't engage.

In a genuine sh*t blizzard being concerned with keeping the safety on shouldn't even be a consideration. Under such circumstances 'safety' is strictly a matter deliberate muzzle direction (i.e. kept safely in the line of attack). When nanoseconds count, keep the safety OFF. (naturally this is very bad advice for the untrained/uninitiated however in the real world in the middle of a sh*tstorm it may well mean the difference between the quick and the dead)

That Zeitgeist hogwash is propagated by a bunch of Blavatsky loving Satan worshiping scumsuckers.

Considering they regulated the semi-auto Daewoo USAS 12 and the drums for it into DDs I'm surprised they've waited this long to make a move on the Saiga, or even allowed it be imported in the first place.

Was using the heatgun method, however when that wasn't working fast enough my buddy whipped out his propane heater which mounts directly to the LPG tank and uses the tank as its stand. Set it on low, turned it near horizontal and then did the rotiserrie number on the fully stripped receiver for a very short period of time. It was much easier than we thought once we thoroughly saturated it with enough heat.

Gonna share something with you from personal experience: when one is very seriously injured one is best served with an autoloader as a pump can and will let you down due to being under stressfire and especially if seriously injured. Add the complications involved in keeping track of twin magazines and you have a recipe for deep kimshee. In theory it sounds wonderful, but in practice the outcome will likely be less than desirable.

As I posted, I prefer using 2 3/4" rounds over 3" (for a number of reasons) however if and when in the future sugar turns to sh*t optimally one would benefit from having the capability of using 3" rounds as the gun was designed to handle them should one acquire 3" rounds somehow - rather than be limited to 2 3/4". How long does it take you to empty all the spent hulls and reload that Street Sweeper to full capacity?

According to the Kel-Tec guy at the Kel-Tec booth at the Shot Show this Kel-Tec shotgun is "designed (only) for 2 3/4" shells to function and feed". Who would want a 'modern' shotgun that's limited to 2 3/4" rounds? (although I prefer not shooting 3" rounds, I like the option just in case) The fact that it only "functions and feeds" reliably with 2 3/4" rounds indicates to me overall reliability issues. For a RELIABLE pump shotty which is limited to 2 3/4" rounds I'll continue to depend on my 18.5" Model 12. There's another youtube video of this shotgun which shows its less than smooth action, and that's a promo video from Kel-Tec.

And as a bonus you get that awesome Kel-Tec reliability at no extra charge!

Note that they were all using G3s for their entry exercise. Makes absolutely no sense to use a machinegun in 7.62 NATO as an entry weapon. But then I suppose it fits in with the rest of their ineptitude.

What was your total cost on that?

It's a Mesa Tactical item, but I'm guessing it won't work on the OEM buttstock on the M4, maybe it will work on the Urbino. http://www.mesatactical.com/index.php?id=56

Doesn't look that way to me. The Mesa rubber PG appears to have a sharper edge in the transition to the back as well as appearing to have more of a flat back, so no, it does not look "just like" the OEM rubber PG to me. Also, the lip extending out at the bottom front definitely appears to be more pronounced on the Mesa PG. I prefer the OEM rubber PG.

I'm wondering if it's possible to put the Benell OEM rubber PG on the Mesa stock.

Besides the 'axle bushing' aka pin, you're likely to also need a new retaining spring, a new retaining spacer, and a new retaining ring. And then you're going to need a pair of inside split ring pliers small enough to get that retaining ring into it's groove. Then once you've got it all assembled you're likely going to have to take it all apart again and tweak the retaining spring so it will allow the the axle bushing (pin) to pass through and engage it.

An al follower has less mass therefore less inertia, making for a quicker action over a ss follower.

Lame. Got nothin' on the Saiga. You can actually buy a Saiga at a reasonable price (if detachable mag shotguns are your thing). That monstrosity isn't available to us lowly 'civilians'. And the biggest distinction is, the Saiga is an AK whereas this thing isn't.

Witch pattern? Just in time for Halloween, huh?

Your 'first line of *defense*' is subject to being breached in under a second. lol Here's a thought: get another dog to work with that one and double the length of time your 'first line of *defense*' remains viable. FWIW I rely on protection dogs myself, but I comprehend their limitations. And yes, I DO expect my dog to be a 'hero' by charging into the fight at WOT without any hesitation, and I fully appreciate the consequences. From my perspective a dog which is a component to one's home defense is strictly a buffer.

gettingold, check your private messages.

There's not a dog alive that's bullet-proof, knife-proof, or bludgeon-proof. The most you can ever hope for out of any dog is for the dog to buy you a little time so you can seize the initiative. To think otherwise is just downright foolish. "My (insert 'badass' dog breed here) is the most awesome sort of protection dog there is" is a cherished delusion of many. A genuine sociopath will take that dog out so fast it will make your head spin. I suggest you keep your HD weapons at the ready and use the dog strictly as a meatshield. If you have to 'bust out' your HD then you're on the wrong end of the torque curve.

I gather it's a purely arbitrary thing which the ATF pulled out of their ***.

First of all, you need to get some proper hearing protection before you damage your hearing any more than you have. Ringing in the ears is an indication of hearing damage. And personally I see no benefit at all in using 3" rounds over 2 3/4" rounds, much less 3.5" rounds. From my experience, 3" rounds produce very irregular patterns vs. 2 3/4" rounds, at least with buckshot.

no 'collapsing' (if that's what you wanna call the fully retracted c stock), just the shorter LOP and the cheek riser I found no real benefit from the fully retracted c stock, I viewed it more of 'what's the point?'