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IMO, once one has ironed the kinks out of a Saiga 12 they're likely the most robust and reliable semi-auto shotgun out there, however because of having a detachable magazine it will never be a suitable tactical shotgun, it will always be a novelty/toy. The only role I see for a Saiga as a defensive tool is as something to use in a fixed position or for ambush purposes, and in both cases having support. I don't see it ever being used for shoot and scoot, and reloading on the fly as necessary. Also, a detachable magazine does not lend itself to the immediate changing up types of ammo, another big negative with respect to shotgun tactics.

It appears you're a closet gun-grabber masquerading as a gun owner. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not get???

Red is nearly impossible to be seen/picked up quickly in daylight.

What can I say? Some people have no experience being very seriously wounded and about to pass out due to exsanguination, yet having to carry on the fight with their shotgun as best they can until help arrives. BTDT I want every advantage I can get. As a good friend and combat vet (of the SE Asian war games) likes to say, "If you find yourself in a fair fight then your tactics suck!"

Thx for the FB. I've screwed around with a green laser a friend had (not a Viridian) in the daylight and that sucker was BRIGHT. If the model I referenced doesn't work out on the M4 then I can always install it on my XD or Glock.

With the introduction of the Made in USA hammer from Carriercomp, there are just enough Made in USA parts to comply when installing the collapsible buttstock. I'm thinking it's four Made in USA parts to get you there: FL mag tube, mag follower, hammer, and handguards. Carriercomp has the first three covered.

Not necessarily tacticool, just practical. A good reliable laser works wonders for quick target acquisition. Not a whole lot of difference between adding a flashlight and adding a laser.

I never had any function issues with any of my 121 M1s except for the one time I sheared the pin for the recoil link at the rear of the bolt carrier (I had been shooting a lot of slugs and I failed to keep that recoil link pin lubed well - ALWAYS KEEP THAT RECOIL LINK PIN LUBED on the 121!). Once you learn the simplicity and ease of function of that 121 of yours you will appreciate it a lot more. It was always easy enough to unload the magazine by sticking my index finger in through the loading port and depressing the shell stop to release each individual shell. This very easy technique for unloading the magazine never failed to work for me, ever. Go out and shoot it with a full magazine, I'm sure it'll be fine. Just make sure you lube it well everywhere it needs to be lubed. The only reason I parted with mine is that it's impossible to find replacement parts for it anymore, otherwise I would have kept it. Someone bought it from me for $750 about a year ago. No doubt Benelli gets frequent calls looking for replacement/spare parts for the discontinued 121, therefore the response you got from Benelli - they want to discourage any more of those inquiries. Years ago CDNN bought their surplus 121 parts, but those are long gone. About the only thing which you can find anymore are the barrel/upper receiver assemblies. ETA: If I were you and I expected to get a lot of service out of my semi-auto shotgun I would sell it while it still functions and get a newer semi-auto shotty which I could get spare/replacement parts for. Sooner or later something is subject to breaking and then you'll be SOL (the recoil link pin is pretty generic and any competent gunsmith should be able to fix that).

Not the el cheapo Hecho en Chino version, but one of these - [ATTACH=CONFIG]779[/ATTACH] http://www.viridiangreenlaser.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=82

They've already shown their hand and said it will be done via an executive order and not by legislation.

Found a tiny image of the 'Benelli button' on a 121 - [ATTACH=CONFIG]776[/ATTACH]

The 121 M1 does not have a 'cartridge drop lever'. The first time Benelli came out with such a device was on the Super 90, after they discontinued the 121 aka SL80.

Over the past 25 years I've had a total of 3 121 M1 shotguns. I love that model, fast handling, reliable, sweet trigger pull, and of course the 'safety feature' as mentioned. Years ago there were at least two different manufacturers of a add-on accessory appropriately called a 'Benelli button'. This 'button' was nothing more than a small extension that was fastened to the (bolt release) button on the side of the receiver by tapping it for a small screw. Once installed it merely required a slight forward flick of this button to release a round from the magazine onto the elevator. Then the BCG could be cycled for loading the round into the chamber. Since there is no longer any demand for these 'Benelli buttons' for the 121 M1 I doubt you're going to find one except already installed on a 121. Perhaps you can get a creative gunsmith to fabricate this very simple device for you.

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Many thanks.

I'm going to need to get a set too.

Does the entire replacement set from Benelli cost more than $25???

That link you posted has absolutely nothing to do with guns in any form or fashion. WTF is up with that???

The enbloc clip from the M1 Garand makes the 'ping' when ejected from the rifle every time, not when it hits the ground (maybe on rocks, but definitely not on soft dirt). The rumor is that GIs would attach a Garand enbloc clip to a stick and strike it against a hard object when a shot is fired, thus getting the desired effect upon any nearby enemy troops.

What would the mechanical fastener securing the pistol grip tap into? On an AR it taps into the receiver itself. A shotgun has a quite a bit more recoil than an AR especially when shooting slugs/magnum loads. Sounds like a recipe for failure to me.

If you're the only one with access to the gun then why be concerned about having the safety on when the hammer is down on an empty chamber? I would think it's definitely better for your hammer spring to be unloaded when stored. The safety on my Winchester Model 12 won't engage when uncocked - that's how I know it's unloaded, the safety won't engage.

In a genuine sh*t blizzard being concerned with keeping the safety on shouldn't even be a consideration. Under such circumstances 'safety' is strictly a matter deliberate muzzle direction (i.e. kept safely in the line of attack). When nanoseconds count, keep the safety OFF. (naturally this is very bad advice for the untrained/uninitiated however in the real world in the middle of a sh*tstorm it may well mean the difference between the quick and the dead)

That Zeitgeist hogwash is propagated by a bunch of Blavatsky loving Satan worshiping scumsuckers.

Considering they regulated the semi-auto Daewoo USAS 12 and the drums for it into DDs I'm surprised they've waited this long to make a move on the Saiga, or even allowed it be imported in the first place.

Was using the heatgun method, however when that wasn't working fast enough my buddy whipped out his propane heater which mounts directly to the LPG tank and uses the tank as its stand. Set it on low, turned it near horizontal and then did the rotiserrie number on the fully stripped receiver for a very short period of time. It was much easier than we thought once we thoroughly saturated it with enough heat.