Dkay67 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) The coveted and hard to get agency arms handguards for the M4 are in stock at Omaha Outdoors. Getem quick because they won't last long. Oh, and bang that green arrow ⬆️ up if you bought one or appreciate the update. ? https://www.omahaoutdoors.com/agency-arms-benelli-m4-m-lok-handguard-rail/ Edited May 4, 2021 by Dkay67 Add photo of in stock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Got one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'zaster Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Thanks Dkay67! On order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznwhip Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Great guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 They didn’t last long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkay67 Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, rubicon20032003 said: They didn’t last long Nope, it sure didn't. My shipping info was already sent so they were on hand, and shipping fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Got my shipping info too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Does anyone know where there might be an M4 Agency Arms hand guard available? I was a little later to this party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBoost Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 The Briley hand-guard is another option (Which I prefer over the AA) and should still be in-stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 While these look nice, I have a very strong preference for the current Tango Arms. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi314 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 I get that AA looks cool, but is there a practical purpose to the AA design.? I am new to all of this and would like the opinions of people who have been doing it for a while. By chance I came across the AA handguard when it was in stock and took a pass. Is it just me or does that look like a bear to clean? One of the things I appreciated about the M4 was the elegance of simplicity and I have a personal preference for the minimalist approach. I get that it's fun to trick out a sweet gun, but some of the things I've seen seem over the top and remind me of a 4 cylinder front wheel drive fart-can coupe with a huge plastic spoiler on the rear. No offense! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 My issue is that the handguards must be removed to field strip, it then takes tools, etc. So you aren't going to RTZ any lasers, and it's an extra pain to deal with. No and no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Yep. IMO, nothing beats OEM guards stippled by Tango Arms. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 I’ve shot Aton of rounds from my first m4.And never cleaned pistons .And bought a agency for a new build.Isn’t like your going to pull every time you clean gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznwhip Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Unobtanium said: My issue is that the handguards must be removed to field strip, it then takes tools, etc. So you aren't going to RTZ any lasers, and it's an extra pain to deal with. No and no thanks. The only thing it prevents you from getting to is the pistons.... And when are you ever going to need to strip the pistons? Everything else is strippable. 6 hours ago, pi314 said: I get that AA looks cool, but is there a practical purpose to the AA design.? I am new to all of this and would like the opinions of people who have been doing it for a while. By chance I came across the AA handguard when it was in stock and took a pass. Is it just me or does that look like a bear to clean? One of the things I appreciated about the M4 was the elegance of simplicity and I have a personal preference for the minimalist approach. I get that it's fun to trick out a sweet gun, but some of the things I've seen seem over the top and remind me of a 4 cylinder front wheel drive fart-can coupe with a huge plastic spoiler on the rear. No offense! ? Additional mlok rail I'd say is a practical purpose. Allows for mounting light, buttons, indexer, hand stop, single shot reload, sling mount, etc. Edited June 6, 2021 by aznwhip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkay67 Posted June 6, 2021 Author Share Posted June 6, 2021 17 hours ago, Evolution said: Yep. IMO, nothing beats OEM guards stippled by Tango Arms. You might not have seen Railscales G10 hand guards then, because they are probably the best grip available for any playform... ARs, M-lock, and keymod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dkay67 said: You might not have seen Railscales G10 hand guards then, because they are probably the best grip available for any playform... ARs, M-lock, and keymod Nothing is going to beat stippling except some of the gucci grit impregnated stipple jobs. This stuff feels like each ridge of your prints is tightly shaking hands. I wasnt really super into it even looking at it, but install them and hold the weapon? Its like a lightbulb coming on. Edited June 6, 2021 by Unobtanium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Agreed on the stippled oem handguard. Rail systems are notoriously bad for ergonomics. The Surefire M80 was a Pringles can with picatinny rails on it. The Strike Industries MLOK rail was relatively comfortable, but has a horrendous mounting solution. The Briley rail runs into the weight and ergonomics issue as well as the Agency arms rail. They all add a bunch of weight and don’t serve a lot of purpose that can’t be met with a lighter solution like the IWC mount. Most of the rail slots are essentially useless. Their only benefit is they reduce overall weight by having a MLOK hole instead of material. It’s not about being weak and not being able to handle the heft. The lighter the front of the shotgun, the faster it is to swing target to target and get your shots on target faster. So if you’re shooting clays, birds, bears or communists; the faster you are the better. You’ve probably felt it when you swing the barrel from one target to the next, and you overshoot your target from the barrels momentum. All that extra weight is just burning up time for you to get sights or optic on target. Side by sides and over and unders are fast due to this low weight up front design. Do some drills just from low ready and snap the shotgun up to sight picture with varying weight on board. Try the rail. Try the oem grips. Try it loaded and unloaded. Swing target to target at shotgun ranges to see how it handles for you. Never understood the bottom angled hand stops on the forend of a shotgun. They’re slowing you down on the reload since you can’t just slip up or down the handguard. You now have a hump to move your hand around. So what are we mounting? Lights and sling mounts? The only one that interested me was the 13” Briley rail so you could eliminate barrel shadow by moving your light nearly flush with an 18.5” barrel. In the end, the barrel shadowing wasn’t worth the weight/ergonomic penalty. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, StrangerDanger said: Agreed on the stippled oem handguard. Rail systems are notoriously bad for ergonomics. The Surefire M80 was a Pringles can with picatinny rails on it. The Strike Industries MLOK rail was relatively comfortable, but has a horrendous mounting solution. The Briley rail runs into the weight and ergonomics issue as well as the Agency arms rail. They all add a bunch of weight and don’t serve a lot of purpose that can’t be met with a lighter solution like the IWC mount. Most of the rail slots are essentially useless. Their only benefit is they reduce overall weight by having a MLOK hole instead of material. It’s not about being weak and not being able to handle the heft. The lighter the front of the shotgun, the faster it is to swing target to target and get your shots on target faster. So if you’re shooting clays, birds, bears or communists; the faster you are the better. You’ve probably felt it when you swing the barrel from one target to the next, and you overshoot your target from the barrels momentum. All that extra weight is just burning up time for you to get sights or optic on target. Side by sides and over and unders are fast due to this low weight up front design. Do some drills just from low ready and snap the shotgun up to sight picture with varying weight on board. Try the rail. Try the oem grips. Try it loaded and unloaded. Swing target to target at shotgun ranges to see how it handles for you. Never understood the bottom angled hand stops on the forend of a shotgun. They’re slowing you down on the reload since you can’t just slip up or down the handguard. You now have a hump to move your hand around. So what are we mounting? Lights and sling mounts? The only one that interested me was the 13” Briley rail so you could eliminate barrel shadow by moving your light nearly flush with an 18.5” barrel. In the end, the barrel shadowing wasn’t worth the weight/ergonomic penalty. I am getting around barrel shadow with a 14" barrel and the M600V. It has ever so SLIGHT a shadow, but shouldn't mess with my i2 any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xblax619 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 On 6/5/2021 at 5:58 PM, Evolution said: Yep. IMO, nothing beats OEM guards stippled by Tango Arms. ^This. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznwhip Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, StrangerDanger said: Never understood the bottom angled hand stops on the forend of a shotgun. They’re slowing you down on the reload since you can’t just slip up or down the handguard. You now have a hump to move your hand around. I agree with this part. I ran hand stops for a bit and ended up hating it for the reason you mentioned. Switched it up for an indexer which I like much better as I can still easily slide up and down to reload by simply lifting a finger and faster back on target as I don't need to fumble with ideal grip location with the physical index point. Also when quad loading, it provides a beneficial physical stop to quickly get second load in if my hand overshoots. Real question though... For those with OEM guard... How do you handle light activation? I see lots of people just running a straight light with rear light activation button, but constant on isn't always ideal right? Even mounted on the left side, you'd have to compromise your grip to turn on and off. I guessed you could drill into the guard to mount a remote. Edited June 7, 2021 by aznwhip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I have no issues with constant on. I turn it on. I shoot what needs shot. I turn it off. If I want to be more stealthy than that, I just eliminate all signature and use i2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznwhip Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Unobtanium said: I have no issues with constant on. I turn it on. I shoot what needs shot. I turn it off. If I want to be more stealthy than that, I just eliminate all signature and use i2. So lights on shotguns are primarily for HD situations right? Last training course I got specifically addressed signature reduction with having lights on like that. Shouldn't leave it on for adversary to be able to see you or see you coming from a different room. The preferred method is operate with momentary on/off without grip compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 4 hours ago, aznwhip said: Real question though... For those with OEM guard... How do you handle light activation? I see lots of people just running a straight light with rear light activation button, but constant on isn't always ideal right? Even mounted on the left side, you'd have to compromise your grip to turn on and off. I guessed you could drill into the guard to mount a remote. I have a SF Scout M600 with the standard shrouded tail cap mounted on an IWC mount. I have long arms, big hands and long fingers. I don't find that activating the light button either for momentary or on/off, has any affect on my grip that I would say compromises it. Maybe someone with different anatomical structure would have issues but I don't. I think the standard OEM hand guards are one of the things Benelli got right with the gun, altho stippling greatly improves them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, aznwhip said: So lights on shotguns are primarily for HD situations right? Last training course I got specifically addressed signature reduction with having lights on like that. Shouldn't leave it on for adversary to be able to see you or see you coming from a different room. The preferred method is operate with momentary on/off without grip compromise. Ive had training that emphasizes both. Once you begin the engagement, however, none of the training Inhave received emphasizes losing track of your target: light stays on. Moving, you can modulate the switch fine, without compromising grip, at 10:30 in an IWC. Under the stress of firing both psychological and physical in the form of recoil, the light just needs to be left on. Again, once you engage, you do not willingly lose sight of the target. If i need to be super stealthy for some reason, I'll be using i2 and nevermind viz signatures. Edited June 7, 2021 by Unobtanium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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