Guest cleefurd Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 During the time we have discussed producing our revised replacement handle for the Benelli M4, several people have asked how much the gen-II version would weigh. We never were keen on whittling weight until we reached a magic #... that tends to breed weak parts. Instead we "swagged" a figure to the best of our ability utilizing a postal scale that only measured in ounces, alternately comparing the figures to Cosmos analysis within our Solidworks 3D modeling software. Well... we finally sprang for that scale which reads in grams. Here's what we found (according to our scale); The OEM steel knob is 11.7 grams Our GenII Hybrid is 9.4 grams Our discontinued solid titanium knob was 8.0 grams... In summarry we intentionally bear an extra 1.4 grams in order to regain the structural integrity of a component whose collateral duties include (according to the owner's manual) torqing on and off the piston skirts much like a mini-lug wrench. That task will mar any titanium regardless of grade or temper. A heat treated tool steel/titanium hybrid costs much more to produce than the ti variants we sold for $41 each. The new "Hybrids"... $47 Thank you for the related inquiries. That interest is motivating, and highly appreciated. Kip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L84Cabo Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Yes, but when can we buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) Good stuff. The price is very reasonable too. Anything at or under stock weight is good to go. When do you expect to start selling them? I am planning to buy three. Also, I saw the solidworks renderings of the FIST in your gallery. Very interesting looking. Is there a method of retracting the bayonet? Such as reversing it in its mount? Edited January 8, 2011 by StrangerDanger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cleefurd Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Cabo, We're having the ti portion PVD/CVD coated along with our disconnectors to defray the minimum charge where the service is being done... only hold-up on running them is an engineering safety sign-off letter necessary to approve the coating proposed for the disconnectors. If the letter fails to materialize by the time we return from the Shot Show on the 23rd, we'll send the knobs in (along with a component for another product we are releasing) with or without the disconnectors and simply absorb the budget dents (hi minimum to CVD/PVD coat limitted parts volume)down the road. Hope that made sense. Every effort is being made to attain "lean" manufg costs which is reflected in our MSRP... oh and it's also why our receptionist is also a machine operator and often can't hear the phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelhooligan Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I am in for two of the handles when they are completed! They'll be worth the wait I'm certain of it! Thanks Kip!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Fab Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I'll have two as well. Thanks for all you are doing Kip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlton Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 sounds great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerooption Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I'm in for one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogslayer Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 During the time we have discussed producing our revised replacement handle for the Benelli M4, several people have asked how much the gen-II version would weigh. We never were keen on whittling weight until we reached a magic #... that tends to breed weak parts. Instead we "swagged" a figure to the best of our ability utilizing a postal scale that only measured in ounces, alternately comparing the figures to Cosmos analysis within our Solidworks 3D modeling software. Well... we finally sprang for that scale which reads in grams. Here's what we found (according to our scale); The OEM steel knob is 11.7 grams Our GenII Hybrid is 9.4 grams Our discontinued solid titanium knob was 8.0 grams... In summarry we intentionally bear an extra 1.4 grams in order to regain the structural integrity of a component whose collateral duties include (according to the owner's manual) torqing on and off the piston skirts much like a mini-lug wrench. That task will mar any titanium regardless of grade or temper. A heat treated tool steel/titanium hybrid costs much more to produce than the ti variants we sold for $41 each. The new "Hybrids"... $47 Thank you for the related inquiries. That interest is motivating, and highly appreciated. Kip I'll take one as well. Thanks Kip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edho2002 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 need a testing guinea pig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW 10mm Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'm new here but I"m in for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flascot007 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Hey Kip, are these ready yet? also waiting for al the other goodies too. Where are you on those also? Just curious, I've been off reservation for 2 weeks and just trying to catch up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR_ICE Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Spoke with Kip a few days ago. He is still waiting on the Safety Certification Sign-off letters for the Disconnect & Hammer. Kip believes he should see them in a couple of weeks or at least before end of February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetM4 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Sounds good to me. I'm in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Fingers Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Me too, im in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiePhil Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Spoke with Kip a few days ago. He is still waiting on the Safety Certification Sign-off letters for the Disconnect & Hammer. Kip believes he should see them in a couple of weeks or at least before end of February. And once that happens, how long until the bolt handles are actually ready? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decodence Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Chomping at the bit here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Alright now Cleetus, where's the dang handles already??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becktherecce Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I will take one. Or ten. Anything from Carriercomp is above and beyond any other product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flascot007 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Still waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betatron Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I'm in for one as well; along with your Picatinney rail and your hammer+sear. Just let me know when they're available. The only thing I see on your site is the rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decodence Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Still waiting too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Blonde Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Still waiting too. I might want one. How long have you been waiting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decodence Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I might want one. How long have you been waiting? Ever since Kip announced their creation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I think it's been nearly two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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