LeoAtrox Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 What's this? [ATTACH=CONFIG]1255[/ATTACH] http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/01/robert-farago/new-from-benelli-m4-h2o-shotgun-treated-with-np3/#more-94593 Quote
Mr. Shotgun Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 I wouldn't mind adding this to my collection Quote
Hookster Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 What's this? [ATTACH=CONFIG]1255[/ATTACH] http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/01/robert-farago/new-from-benelli-m4-h2o-shotgun-treated-with-np3/#more-94593 Darn you LeoAtrox!!! Something else I have to buy!!!!!!!!!!!............. Quote
daniel333 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 I wonder how they are getting past importing these? They are putting american made parts in these guns now? Quote
Lakotah Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 I wonder how they are getting past importing these? They are putting american made parts in these guns now? Good question. Quote
StrangerDanger Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 WMD Guns said they'd coat an M4 with Boron Nickel pretty inexpensively. This would be the ideal route since you could get the Titanium mag tube coated rather than the heavy steel factory tube. Glad to see Benelli taking this step. I'd like to know how they are assembling and selling without violating the 922 BS. Quote
rhane71 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Since it's limited, I would say maybe they are making them state side with US parts I guess. What does limited mean anyway? Quote
Bello Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 i do like it but ive always been privy to black guns! Quote
daniel333 Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Since it's limited, I would say maybe they are making them state side with US parts I guess. What does limited mean anyway? It will probably be just like the M1014's. They limited the supply to only 2500 of them. I have 1 of them Quote
crofton Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 I wonder how they are getting past importing these? They are putting american made parts in these guns now? Wonder if it is because of fiscal Year 2012 Agriculture, Commerce/Justice/Science (CJS) and Transportation/Housing/Urban Development (THUD) Appropriations bills—also known as the “Mini-Bus,” http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php/27742-does-this-also-pertain-to-922R Quote
Wrinkles Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Maybe it has an internal mag/tube plug? Quote
sonny27 Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Just got off the phone with Benelli, here is what they said: The m4 H2O is coming with a full length magazine tube and a collapsible stock for civilians in states that allow them. You can also get them with a pistol grip stock too. The final assembly is in the U.S. with U.S.A. parts to meet 922r requirements. The gentleman on the phone said Benelli is very excited with this new product. Sonny... Edited January 18, 2012 by sonny27 Quote
STA Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 It will be interesting to see if Benelli does anything in print to address the issue regarding the compliance issue or use of US parts exclusively in these two H20 models. If not, it will just open the door to more confusion as they did post 2004 when they sold the mag extensions for several years, then pulled them with no formal written explanation. Quote
John P. Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I'd have to read the law to be sure, but if "made in the USA" means where the parts were NP3 coated (Robar?) before the gun was fully assembled, they could skirt the laws Quote
StrangerDanger Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Interesting. The receiver is stamped Italy. So either Benelli is producing some state side parts to bring the M4 to 922® compliance, or recent law changes have made it irrelevant. Quote
d Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Interesting. The receiver is stamped Italy. So either Benelli is producing some state side parts to bring the M4 to 922® compliance, or recent law changes have made it irrelevant. I think your second theory is correct StrangerDanger, I have to do some research but I do recall there being legislation a couple months ago regarding shotguns specificly and the import ban. I will look it up and report. Regards -d Quote
KB Fab Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 I think your second theory is correct StrangerDanger, I have to do some research but I do recall there being legislation a couple months ago regarding shotguns specificly and the import ban. I will look it up and report. Regards -d Here it is. http://www.ammoland.com/category/pro-gun/page/138/ Manasquan, NJ --(Ammoland.com)- Saiga 12’s, Benelli M4’s and virtually any other tactical/military shotgun can no longer be banned from import by the ATF. A little noticed provision tucked into a large appropriations bill obviously flew under the radar of the “Brady Bunch” and the “Illegal Mayors.” The new law effectively kills ATF’s plan to stop tactical/military shotgun imports by way of abusing the“sporting purpose” requirement and their agency rulemaking powers. The “Fiscal Year 2012 Agriculture, Commerce/Justice/Science (CJS) and Transportation/Housing/Urban Development (THUD) Appropriations bills”, also known as the “Mini-Bus”, was passed by Congress, and signed into law by President Obama on November 18, 2011. The new law reads as follows: SEC. 541. None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to pay the salaries or expenses of personnel to deny, or fail to act on, an application for the importation of any model of shotgun if– (1) all other requirements of law with respect to the proposed importation are met; and (2) no application for the importation of such model of shotgun, in the same configuration, had been denied by the Attorney General prior to January 1, 2011, on the basis that the shotgun was not particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes. This new law became necessary due to the ATF releasing on January 27, 2011, a “Study on the Importability of Certain Shotguns.” The “Study” argued “military shotguns, or shotguns with common military features that are unsuitable for traditional shotgun sports” should be banned from import into the U.S. The ban would have applied to all shotguns including semi-autos, pump-actions, double barrels, etc. As part of the rulemaking process, comments from the public on the study were allowed to be submitted until May 1, 2011. Quote
John P. Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Interesting! Too bad the states can be left to make such things more difficult, for example my lovely state. Quote
6camaro9 Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 SaWeet! time to start saving my money. when will this thing be available to the common folks? Quote
LeoAtrox Posted January 20, 2012 Author Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Trying to find the video from SHOT, but in it, the speaker said that the shotgun was going to be assembled in the US and would have the requisite US-made components to make it 922r-compliant; and they they will only be able to manufacture, at most, about 1000 units per year ... I don't know; my memory could be fuzzy. Here it one video mentioning "remanufacturing," but not the one I'm thinking of: http://www.youtube.com/user/Sturmgewehre#p/u/2/V-S1cUs10Jw Edited January 20, 2012 by LeoAtrox Quote
crofton Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Trying to find the video from SHOT, but in it, the speaker said that the shotgun was going to be assembled in the US and would have the requisite US-made components to make it 922r-compliant; and they they will only be able to manufacture, at most, about 1000 units per year ... I don't know; my memory could be fuzzy. Here it one video mentioning "remanufacturing," but not the one I'm thinking of: http://www.youtube.com/user/Sturmgewehre#p/u/2/V-S1cUs10Jw They are remanufacturing the shotgun here in the USA, therefore the components are 922r compliant. Quote
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