Strike_Insider Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Here is a teaser picture of our upcoming hand guard for the Benelli M4. M-LOK compatible so you can easily attach accessories such as weapon lights or fore grips. Anodized in Black, Red, Blue, or FDE. Additional information and pictures will be posted shortly but I thought I'd provide a teaser picture. Standby everyone! Accessories mounted: *Pictures above are a prototype sample coated in black bedliner for photos. Edited October 30, 2017 by Strike_Insider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Interesting. Definitely want to see more. Hopefully the ergonomics copy the OEM handguards. Pairing this with a mLOK attached pressure switch from say TNVC Taps switch might be a huge win. Hopefully the weight is comporable to the OEM handguards as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasyad Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Cool, look forward to seeing more. Rasyad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike_Insider Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 Additional pictures: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Billythekid Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Looks like a nice alternative if you can't get the Surefire M80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Are you developing or is there an existing product that fills those holes on the sides of the handguard to provide an even, ergonomic textured gripping surface? Are those groups of 3 holes decoration or do they serve some purpose? Can you show the barrel hanger engagement? Do you need tools to remove the rail or are those fasteners just for adjustment? Have you considered some kind of polymer insert to keep the rail from scraping up the barrel during installation and disassembly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Cool looking hunk of metal, in any case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) I keep feeling like everyone misses the boat with M1014/M4 handguards because they try too hard. What do we want? Something that plops down in place of the OEM's and allows us to mount a light, ambi. You know what I would do, were I King for a day? I'd make a handguard that was identical to OEM in shape, and material, except the texture of the currently "ribbed" area (haha...) would be the same texture as the S&P M&P2.0 grip area, and the very end at 11 and 1 O-clock would have a metal-backed MLOK slot, and be "flared" so as to be able to mount a light with a 1.4" or smaller bezel without contacting the barrel. The MLOK slot would be accessed from the back, with the handguards removed from the shotgun, as an admin task. It would accept Magpul MLOK accessories found here: https://www.magpul.com/mlok People could bolt whatever light, and however they wanted that light, on-to said handguard. I would supply also custom fasteners/backers made of metal to interface with the metal insert of the back of the MLOK in a solid fashion, as a way to hard-mount Surefire and Streamlight Scout lights, and that dimension is what I would base the 1.4" or smaller bezel off of. At 1.4", the bezel of a Scout IB light would clear. Any other hardware (forward extensions, 1913 section, etc.) would create further stand-off for those who had other plans. It would be so simple. So easy. So damn un-complicated to do this. To stop trying to make it look like a cheese-grater. To stop trying to figure out how to put a VFG on it. To stop all of this **** that noone asked for...and simply make OEM quality and interface handguards with a simple parallel flare at the muzzle end on either side, with an MLOK slot and embedded stainless plate. But no. NOONE wants to do this. They all want set-screws, and "remove 2 bolts to take it apart for cleaning the SG" and all this other stuff. I wish I had the time, capital, and machinery to do what I just said above. I'd create an entire empire out of 1 product. Then I'd adapt it to the 1301, M1, M2, etc. Ever notice how a company that does only ONE THING, but does it flawlessly and in a "less is more" way, somehow always ends up as an empire? Geissele made a trigger. LaRue made a mount. So on. I'm sorry for the rant, but it seems things keep getting more and more complex with these handguards, reaching their ultimate zenith with the B&T and the like. Edited November 1, 2017 by Unobtanium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I can't argue with anything Unobtanium said. All I really want is a method of mounting my weapon light near the muzzle to eliminate barrel shadow and illuminating my front sight tower and having the controls on the handguard. Then a switch in the handguard that actually works. No tools required for disassembly. No loose cables or plugs to snag on anything. Lower the weight, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelliwerkes Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 SD- Time for a cocktail ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerhelo Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 when will these be available???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billythekid Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 The only setup available for a weapon light to be mounted the closest to the barrel is the AVA tactical barrel clamp. However you still get a little bit of barrel shadow - Which is totally insignificant by the way. ATI's forend kit (which has been long discontinued) offered the picatinny rail section right at the end of the barrel. That is as good as it gets. My surefire scout light mounted at the very end of my surefire m80 forend gets pretty close to the end and barrel showow is almost non existent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniiped Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Anyone else notice the serious scratches on the mag tube under the handguard? Hope these aren't prone to scratching the gun up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm4sbs Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 The set screws are terrifying. Can you please explain them? Unob: The tooling and molding required to make such parts is VERY expensive upfront investment. Per unit cost after that is much better than machining, but molds are crazy expensive. I am not aware of any... ANY... M-Lok plastic slots that are fortified with metal on the backend. This doesn't seem realistic. M-Lok was designed to be poly friendly btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzGun Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 spacegun hand guard, no thanks. something like a B&T with M-lok, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike_Insider Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 Here is the barrel after a quick wipe down with some CLP. Barrel is exposed so it will be prone to scratching anyways. Set screws to reduce play are included but not required. No other tools needed for installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniiped Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Is there an estimated price point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 [ATTACH=CONFIG]3471[/ATTACH] Here is the barrel after a quick wipe down with some CLP. Barrel is exposed so it will be prone to scratching anyways. Set screws to reduce play are included but not required. No other tools needed for installation. Not bad, really. I would have liked to see "wings" at 11 and 1 though, that would allow hardmounting of a Scout or similar. The M1014's handguard is SHORT, and some people will want to push the light out there. Where do the set-screws interface? The barrel-hanger, or the barrel proper? Are they front only, or rear also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike_Insider Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 I keep feeling like everyone misses the boat with M1014/M4 handguards because they try too hard. What do we want? Something that plops down in place of the OEM's and allows us to mount a light, ambi. This actually does that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 This actually does that. Yes, but it does it with a lot of unnecessary background noise which opens the pistons to debris, exposes the hands to vented gasses, and in general is very elaborate compared to simply making a set of improved HG's with an MLOK slot at 11 and 1 that are of quality polymer with a grippy texture, etc. for $65/set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I need more holes to mount more crap;https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3753/3142/original.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 ..... opens the pistons to debris, exposes the hands to vented gasses..... this was my 1st thought. I also considered that it’s not very cosmetically appealing. My main concern will be reduced reliability. A car engine had a hood for many reasons other than mounting a hood emblem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeerGuy Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I think it looks great and would offer lots of mounting options. Can SI address/comment on the concerns about the "vented gases"? I'm not sure if this is a real problem or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topleft Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I think it looks great and would offer lots of mounting options. Can SI address/comment on the concerns about the "vented gases"? I'm not sure if this is a real problem or not... ^+1 to this request. I'm interested, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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