CTDLG Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 The M4 manual states not to use metal brushes. I haven’t cleaned any smooth bore barrel before. I understand the interior surface is treated and is very hard. Is there any problem to use phosphor bronze brush to clean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchP Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I have always used a bore snake on my shoties, but there may be others that approach it differently. I personally would never to use any type of metal bore brushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT111 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 When in doubt, MOM knows best. (My Owners Manual) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTDLG Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 I’ll keep brass brushes away now. I did the first cleaning. I had a piece of 3/16 dowel stick (leftover for clearing jam of.22). It was pretty handy to pass solvent soaked patches. I know aluminum or brass rod doesn’t do any harm but it just feels bad about metal-to-metal. BTW, I was surprised that the choke became loose after 75 rounds. I took it off w/o tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I use a tornado brush. Right? Wrong? It's about the only thing that gets lead out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm2376 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Unobtanium said: I use a tornado brush. Right? Wrong? It's about the only thing that gets lead out. are you using the Hoppes brush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I am not sure the brand. Tornado brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milspec Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 5:07 PM, CTDLG said: The M4 manual states not to use metal brushes. I haven’t cleaned any smooth bore barrel before. I understand the interior surface is treated and is very hard. Is there any problem to use phosphor bronze brush to clean? Odd.. https://www.benelliparts.net/store/p24/Benelli_12ga_Cleaning_Kit_.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 As for myself, when I first got my M4, I tried cleaning the barrel of lead streaks and melted plastic with kid gloves. I found it to be an impossible endeavor. After wearing myself out and wasting a lot of time trying to clean the bore, I read about using a bronze brush, a length of rod, and a cordless drill. I don't waste time anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roufus Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Not to highjack the thread, but... I am a Glock guy so cleaning is far from important to me. Well, every 6-800 rounds, anyway. How often does the M4 have to be taken down and cleaned? Should I disassemble mag tube, receiver barrel etc. each time I shoot it? If I throw a couple of slugs down range to sight in dose it require a full cleaning? I saw some schmuts on the surface of chamber and used a Hops brass brush on it. A pia. After reading on this sight I now know it was probably melted plastic from shell casing. I did not take down the gun, just sprayed down bore, passed brush 3-4 times then cotton swab. Looks clean now and I wiped down all exterior surfaces. WHERE WAS I WEAK??? This is my first shotgun and as u know a major investment so I want to keep it right. Roufus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roufus Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 The official Benelli cleaning kit reminds me of last weeks trip to Mercedes dealer who told me I had a frozen front break caliper in my 2013 Sprinter based Winni View. He suggested replacing both front wheel full brake systems. $2500.00 Thank God my pacemaker batteries were charged. Brought the rig to my regular repair shop and got the job done for $650. Get my drift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03svt Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Not at all. All I use is a tornado brush works the best @Unobtanium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Roufus said: Not to highjack the thread, but... I am a Glock guy so cleaning is far from important to me. Well, every 6-800 rounds, anyway. How often does the M4 have to be taken down and cleaned? Should I disassemble mag tube, receiver barrel etc. each time I shoot it? If I throw a couple of slugs down range to sight in dose it require a full cleaning? I saw some schmuts on the surface of chamber and used a Hops brass brush on it. A pia. After reading on this sight I now know it was probably melted plastic from shell casing. I did not take down the gun, just sprayed down bore, passed brush 3-4 times then cotton swab. Looks clean now and I wiped down all exterior surfaces. WHERE WAS I WEAK??? This is my first shotgun and as u know a major investment so I want to keep it right. Roufus Member StrangerDanger here has posted several times that, as an experiment, he once went like 15,000 rounds with one of his M4's without cleaning it, other than squirting the bolt and receiver down with CLP or the like, and never experienced a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 I think I only made it to about 2500-3000 before cleaning it. It still worked just fine, I just got tired of it looking like crap and getting fowling on things like car seats. Overall, it has about 16k thru it since 2004. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 On 5/29/2021 at 10:36 AM, StrangerDanger said: I think I only made it to about 2500-3000 before cleaning it. It still worked just fine, I just got tired of it looking like crap and getting fowling on things like car seats. Overall, it has about 16k thru it since 2004. My mistake. I don't know where I pulled that figure out of. Sorry for misquoting.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJHUB Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 That's a lot of rounds. I bet that action is as smooth as butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'zaster Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 I was had SD's reported round count in mind as i the locktighted (blu) the screws on the Agency arms foregrip....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'zaster Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Sheesh...More coffee needed! I had SD's reported round count in mind as i locktighted (blu) the screws on the Agency arms foregrip....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyjames Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Below is an image of p58 of TM10698A 10/1. Marines recommend using a bronze brush https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxN5CusgXy6nbm1udXh5dzYyYUU/view 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlami Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 2:15 PM, Milspec said: Odd.. https://www.benelliparts.net/store/p24/Benelli_12ga_Cleaning_Kit_.html IKR - the second image clearly shows bronze brushes. I wonder if by metallic they mean ferric metals (like a steel brush). They also say not to use a sponge with iron inserts or steel wool. Just the way it all reads - I don’t think English is the author’s first language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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