truckcop Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) (I AM NOT ASSOCIATED IN ANY WAY WITH TARAN TACTICAL. WELL, EXCEPT FOR THE PILE OF MY MONEY THEY HAVE) Most everybody who has a Benelli, including me, is familiar with the "Benelli Thumb" experience. The shape of the current carrier is such that, when loading shells into the magazine, the thumb is easily captured by the carrier "nose" which can result in pain, blood, cursing, tossing the shotgun into the weeds, and other such negative wave activities. This is especially true when trying to perform reloads under the stress of a high-speed shooting match like 3-gun, but is not uncommon even during staid events such as a leisurely skeet or trap outing. With the increased popularity of 3-gun, it was such a common occurrence that individuals started modifying the OEM carrier to fill in the U-shaped nose to alleviate the problem. These mods met with varying degrees of success. This lead to other folks who were more mechanically inclined to perform these mods for others. And now the final progression of this is the purpose-made replacement part. While this is the first one I'm aware of, I imagine others may follow. Anyway, Taran Tactical Innovations has what they call the AccuGuide Extended Carrier. You can go to their website for further information. While it is a bit spendy at eighty bucks a pop, that's not really out of line if you consider the alternatives of sending your OEM part off for modification, come back and may or may not work correctly. I can tell you that this thing works. So far I've installed 4 in my M1/M2's. My M1 clays gun has been through a number of sporting clays/skeet/trap sessions without a single hiccup. I've done one 3-gun and one practical shotgun match with my current M1 3-gun shooter with the same results. And no pain, blood, cursing, etc. I'm a satisfied customer. I'm not sure why Benelli doesn't do this themselves on OEM builds. On the right is an older M1. The carrier shape is such that I have never experienced the Benelli Thumb so I didn't feel the need to replace it. Center is the current thumb catcher shape. On the left is the TTI replacement carrier. Edited December 11, 2013 by truckcop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Intelligent mod with tangible benefits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVATactical.com Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 This work on the M4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdenz Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Do you have their spring kit for reduced recoil and faster follow up shots for your benelli? if so how do you like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truckcop Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) This work on the M4? Can't say. Haven't tried. There's an ever-so-slight difference between the M2 and M4 carriers. Just looking at it I wouldn't think there would be a function issue but I'd check with TTI before I did it. M4 OEM on the bottom. The difference is probably just for added strength per mil requirements. Do you have their spring kit for reduced recoil and faster follow up shots for your benelli? if so how do you like it Nope. I've been running SureCycle recoil tube/spring sets on a few of my guns for years with no issues. Don't see a need to change. Edited December 11, 2013 by truckcop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspcrx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 sure looks very similar to my untrained eye. Can you swap one and try it? Help stop the bleeding, PLEASE! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truckcop Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 sure looks very similar to my untrained eye. Can you swap one and try it? Help stop the bleeding, PLEASE! lol I've ordered a couple more to complete my inventory. I'll install one on my M4 and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack Rat Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) It does fit the m4. I swapped the hammer spring & safety too. The little things make big differences. Edited December 18, 2013 by Pack Rat left out model (m4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspcrx Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Excuse my ignorance but what is different about the hammer spring and what safety did you go with. Been looking at a couple. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigofirearms Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) This work on the M4? Can't say. Haven't tried. There's an ever-so-slight difference between the M2 and M4 carriers. Just looking at it I wouldn't think there would be a function issue but I'd check with TTI before I did it. M4 OEM on the bottom. The difference is probably just for added strength per mil requirements. I just found out the carrier on that M2 is actually derived from a M3. http://forums.benelliusa.com/showthread.php/32569-M3-Cartridge-Drop-Lever-and-Carrier Edited January 4, 2014 by Vertigofirearms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtGoat Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Perfect. I was going to buy a spare and have it modified to see how it worked. Instead I just placed an order for one of the TTI replacement carriers and a bolt handle. I missed this post until today...great timing. Thanks Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtGoat Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I was looking at a SBE II and an M2 at Scheels today and it sure looks liek they are either the same size or close. Has anyone tried a TT carrier in a SBE? I am wondering if the TT carrier and be trimmed down to fit a 20 gauge??? Naw, I bet the receiver on the 20 gauge is narrower not just the carrier...danged. Thanks Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truckcop Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 I was looking at a SBE II and an M2 at Scheels today and it sure looks liek they are either the same size or close. Has anyone tried a TT carrier in a SBE? I am wondering if the TT carrier and be trimmed down to fit a 20 gauge??? Naw, I bet the receiver on the 20 gauge is narrower not just the carrier...danged. Thanks Pat Yes, works on SBE. Yes, 20 ga. receiver and carrier narrower. Already begging him for a 20 ga. version. No response yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtGoat Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I will need to order more and add my begging to the list for a 20 gauge version Thanks Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 So did anyone actually confirm if the carrier will work with the M4? What about the hammer spring they offer? Anyone try it with the M4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtGoat Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I added my name to the list for a TT 20 gauge M1/2 carrier. Pat I will need to order more and add my begging to the list for a 20 gauge version Thanks Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack Rat Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) yea,SD...they fit. Hammer spring is the ****. http://forums.benelliusa.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2414&d=1387651030 Edited January 29, 2014 by Pack Rat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badkins100 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I feed my Benelli (M1014) magazine like trying to feed a hungry baby gator. Very carefully, holding it in the proper position, and hoping to get away with just some roughed skin. This is probably another mod I will want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12508 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Too bad it isn't a 922r "part" as interpreted by BATFE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2_shootr Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I feed my Benelli (M1014) magazine like trying to feed a hungry baby gator. Very carefully, holding it in the proper position, and hoping to get away with just some roughed skin. This is probably another mod I will want. Wise advice.........."M4 thumb" is the new "Garand thumb" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badkins100 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Man, TTI has some sharp add-on things. I don't want to do too much to my standard gun, being a Flag edition, but it makes me want to buy a plain M4 and dress it up. Heck, that's what my wife does to the granddaughter,,, but I don't have a grandson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtGoat Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Is there a down side other than occasionally getting to grow a new thumbnail to getting rid of the fork on the stock Benelli carrier? I would ask AFTER I get the TT carrier Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Finally got around to ordering a TTI shell elevator and their lightened hammer spring. I'll test it out to see if both are reliable on the M4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack Rat Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Finally got around to ordering a TTI shell elevator and their lightened hammer spring. I'll test it out to see if both are reliable on the M4. cool. your reviews are decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krul1 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I received my TTI shell elevator,hammer spring,bolt release pad and safety yesterday,,, to me being a new M4 owner the pieces seem to be well made and well finished the shell elevator is completly polished and the bolt pad and safety are hard coat anodized in a dark grayish color.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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